id like some help i beat laners i normal would lose to and lose to laners i normally beat
i dont see what i am doing wrong other then junglers gank once its too late

Don't trade early unless you can afford it. Farm and kill enemies in other lanes or team fights.

pretty much farm and play safe until 6, then abuse the shit outta them. Almost everything loses to a level 6 jax that hasn't died.

Proc Klepto and split push for the whole game

If you're trying to team fight on a split pusher then you should just be playing Camille

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jan 20 2018 10:01pm

is klepto the best on him right now? or is it viable to go pta?

All you want is gold

You don't need PTA to 1v1 once you have items

What m/us are u struggling with?

trying that right now and you do have a point the ones who try to fight me are the ones that need to wait for me to attack first

sometimes I consider klepto on heimer or karthus, or even on Teemo

but you need to proc a lot of gold with it, to keep ahead on the other rune, you will be missing
like, gain biscuit,flash or stopwatch at the cost of ultihat or gathering storm or trensandence



so on heimer
klepto > summon eary
perfect timing zhonya discount and cdr < gathering storm or ultihat, even the 10cdr

when combine them
klepto+perfect timing < ultihat+summon eary




do you realy need that 1ste item a few min sooner? a benefit decaying away after

gone try it out a game, klepto heimer
witch means, I not gone use low cost cooldown items refillable pots/relic, or any items that drain item slots
maybe just: cdr shoes/sup item


I feel forced to rush big gold items, like a deathcap, witch requires other AP to be effective, could be provided with sorcery and gathering storm
not feel like building a Morello or Ryla, a medium gold item, after 30min mark


get cdr shoes and 5cdr sup item,
get 1250gold 60AP staff
get deadmans, or get destroyed
upgrade into deathcap
triforce/warmog