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Oct 20 2017 11:37am
Quote (Leg3nd @ Oct 19 2017 06:13pm)
Lool to ^^^ that and "so you would choose 0.5 damage over a life boost from sacred targe, consistent damage from zakarum shield or high defense from vortex?"

Life boost from ST? I'm guessing a total of 0 str points are needed for either shield, and ST has a 3% better chance to block..or 6 dex points difference for statistically the highest dps shield despite amount and the consistent damage from the zak at the expense of how shitty it is as a shield makes me wonder if your just suggesting the other shield to suggest them without any actual thought put into it.


6 dex is like having an extra life sc in your inventory, vs 0.5 damage which is so insignificant it shouldn't have even prompted a discussion

If you had put the 6 into strength instead the ed% would be higher boost than the 0.5 base damage from SR

This post was edited by SuperButt420 on Oct 20 2017 11:38am
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Oct 20 2017 01:58pm
SR and ST is best. Others are not worth it at all at least if its buildt to conquer all.
I prefer ST for its 2% more block than the SR. But its true that SR got 0,5 more avg dmg.
ST is also much less rare than SR.

Vortex sucks, ye good def but crap block and dmg.
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Oct 20 2017 02:04pm
Quote (gel87 @ Oct 20 2017 12:58pm)
SR and ST is best. Others are not worth it at all at least if its buildt to conquer all.
I prefer ST for its 2% more block than the SR. But its true that SR got 0,5 more avg dmg.
ST is also much less rare than SR.

Vortex sucks, ye good def but crap block and dmg.


I appreciate you not going to auto flame/troll mode like everyone else seemed too. Statistically the sacreds are the best.
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Oct 20 2017 07:27pm
Quote (Leg3nd @ 20 Oct 2017 14:04)
I appreciate you not going to auto flame/troll mode like everyone else seemed too. Statistically the sacreds are the best.



If you have your mind made up then why ask the question
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Oct 20 2017 07:31pm
Zaka the best dmg wise
Ez
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Oct 20 2017 08:13pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Oct 21 2017 02:31am)
Zaka the best dmg wise
Ez


+2 To Paladin Skill Levels
+2 To Combat Skills
46 to 46 (If upgraded to Zakarum Shield)

eZ

This post was edited by Unfall on Oct 20 2017 08:16pm
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Oct 20 2017 09:50pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Oct 20 2017 09:27pm)
If you have your mind made up then why ask the question


he doesn't want opinions unless they agree with his
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Oct 21 2017 10:02am
Theres no idea to try invent the wheel again.
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Oct 21 2017 10:29am
Quote (Unfall @ Oct 21 2017 02:13am)
+2 To Paladin Skill Levels
+2 To Combat Skills
46 to 46 (If upgraded to Zakarum Shield)

eZ


2 paladin = 34%ed + 30% ed + 8 base dmg
2 combat = 30%ed + 8 base
20 str = 20% ed
46 - 46 base.

= 54 to 54 base
= 114% ed

Level 40 HS is pretty normal. Gives: 137-140 dmg.
Grief gives 400 dmg.

So the effect u get from zaka upgraded is:
400 + 140 + 8 + 46 = 594max
400 + 137 + 8 + 46 = 590min
= 592 avg

The ed from zaka in total helps: 592 * 2,14 = 1272,8

Answere (dmg adds from zaka upped = 1272,8 + 46 = 1318,8)

Now lets thing a 4soc/60life/65base with 4x 30/9/9/add
30*4 + 9*4 = 120 + 36 = 156 ed.

Base for this shield + grief + hs:
400 + 140 + 70 = 610
400 + 137 + 22 = 559
= 584,5 avg

The ed for magic st helps: 584,5 * 2,56 = 1496,32
Dmg adds from magic st = 1496,32 + 46 = 1542,32.

So the magical one won on dmg.
it looses on def.
It can have either 40@ or 120single res add from jools. (so i can agree zaka won this)
the 60life combined with 36dex won the block% from zaka conserning life, if you use good crafts or enough dex in rest of gear.
It wins on place in stash.


However, i forgot that zaka can be socet 40ed/20life or 30/9/9/add.
Then end result on zaka will be:
592 * 2,54 = 1503,7 + 46 = 1549,7
+ 20 life

or

592 * 2,63 = 1610 + 46 = 1656

Anyway, its a close match. Zaka won if jooled for dmg.

This post was edited by gel87 on Oct 21 2017 10:48am
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Oct 21 2017 11:01am
Sry, last calculations was wrong xD

Here is new, edit failed:
Quote (Unfall @ Oct 21 2017 02:13am)
+2 To Paladin Skill Levels
+2 To Combat Skills
46 to 46 (If upgraded to Zakarum Shield)

eZ


2 paladin = 34%ed + 30% ed + 8 base dmg
2 combat = 30%ed + 8 base
20 str = 20% ed
46 - 46 base.

= 54 to 54 base
= 114% ed

Level 40 HS is pretty normal. Gives: 137-140 dmg.
Grief gives 400 dmg.

So the effect u get from zaka upgraded is:
400 + 140 + 8 + 46 = 594max
400 + 137 + 8 + 46 = 590min
= 592 avg

The ed from zaka in total helps: 592 * 2,14 = 1272,8


Now lets thing a 4soc/60life/65base with 4x 30/9/9/add
30*4 + 9*4 = 120 + 36 = 156 ed.

Base for this shield + grief + hs:
400 + 140 + 70 = 610
400 + 137 + 22 = 559
= 584,5 avg

The ed for magic st helps: 584,5 * 2,56 = 1496,32


So the magical one won on dmg.
it looses on def.
It can have either 40@ or 120single res add from jools. (so i can agree zaka won this)
the 60life combined with 36dex won the block% from zaka conserning life, if you use good crafts or enough dex in rest of gear.
It wins on place in stash.


However, i forgot that zaka can be socet 40ed/20life or 30/9/9/add.
Then end result on zaka will be:
592 * 2,54 = 1503,7
+ 20 life

or

592 * 2,63 = 1610

Anyway, its a close match. Zaka won if jooled for dmg.

Ill try a godly rare ST then xD
2pala
65ed
2soc 80ed/40life
60life
20% block
200% ed
45@
eth
sefl repl

2 paladin = 34%ed + 30% ed + 8 base dmg
65 + 80% ed = 145% ed
100life
20% block
good def
ok res
46 avg base

46 + 8 + 400 + 138,5 = 592,5 base
34 + 30 + 145 = 209
= 592,5 * 3,09 = 1830,85

Rare won by far xD

This is only the dmg adds from the shield itself. Others dont mather as both got same avg dmg.

This post was edited by gel87 on Oct 21 2017 11:06am
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