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Jul 6 2017 05:03pm
Quote (leon123123 @ 7 Jul 2017 00:57)
lets asume i am not trolling and i actually telling the truth and everything makes sense, but people like you, who had not the possiblites to gain the knowlegde nor to comprehend the real mechanics behind the talk we are doing right now, wont ever understand people like us. It is like this scenario, maybe u get what im talking about: You are going in a ladder as a hdong and telling a random mfhdin joder how a fohsmithnamelock combo works. He would think: Ya? Thats stupid, i just joder and kill anyone. Tell him about chainlocks, he will have the same answer to this. Well. I like how passionated u are about sorceress, but it is just the wrong direction u are going ahead. U should talk to people like -uzn-, they can explain to you further, why i am crtisicing your build. I am only telling you all of this, because i hope people like u will someday understand that the world is more than how it seems in the first place. Someday u might play the real svs^^


tl:dr

again i ask
how do you rate top items 2/10?
focus on topic, dont go to dreamland talking about other stuff again
i guess youre hitting the bong too hard m8

my question is
10 fcr 3 ll 23 str 59 life 11 all res rings
top eu cr lr craft battle boots
top eu str dex res soso helm
top str dex amy
top diadems
legit jewel in viper 7 fhr 9 str 10 all res 40 cr
stuff like that

how do you rate it 2/10?
thats what youre failing to explain time after time
youre just floating off somewhere in a world that i cant relate to

already told you, dont like the build, fine, but its a fact 200 fcr vita fber is strongest svser there is
ask any real svser any realm
and again, there is no secret shit to this, you have 2 fcr rings 1 fcr amy 1 fcr helm
rest is the fucking same for all 200 fcr sorcs, stop talking about there is other ways to build this sorc, because there fucking isnt

again, my question is, how do you rate the items 2/10 and still maintain common sense?

dont go floatting of again, answer me
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Jul 6 2017 05:59pm
Lets see.SO U like to make 200fcr sorc. RIght? Well ok Np.

25 divided by 8 = 3.1 casts per sec 105fcr
25 divided by 7 = 3.5 casts per sec 200fcr

so u gain 0.4 sec . Ok thats fair. Lets continue.


Fire or lighting?

Lighting, because the extra 5 fcr u gain from Griffon is an important factor.

Use Lightbolts. They make 26-28k dmg, when u stomp your enemy.


Griffon's + Cham 25
Eschuta's + rbf / Hoto ( not a fan for vita: Liferep is overrated =/= Es) 40
Quehegans + Fhr strg res jool 20 ( the 20fhr is the key. Morelife.)
Spirit Monarch 35 sop ( use an etheral version. As a sorc u wont block much, so the dura wont go down fast)
20 one of your FCR Amus
Arach 20
Magefist 20
2x 10 FCR Rings 20
Important: Use!20fhr strg prepatch BOOTS! Lifeboost. Liferep is not good for your build. Life> Liferep.

= 200fcr

the dmg:

http://diablo3.***/diablo-2/calculatoren/skill/?lang=de&char=sor&lvl=99&diff=2&set=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,20,25,1,22,20,22,5,22,20,22,20,22,1,22,1,22,1,22,20,22,0,0,1,22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


You might also use an upraded QUehegans version for the strgbug.


The extra 20fhr from the new armor gives you more life after all as you would have had with viper. U dont need the strg from the diadem, because u can get nearly the same amount with some 2k prepatch boots.


Im not a fan of 200fcr, but ok, if u like it.. go ahead. U should also try to get near to 142 fhr bp if you like speed in duels. The animation is like no other speed. The loss of stats might be huge, but u should try it out one day.


result:

more dmg, more life



boots= 20fhr quehegangs = 20fhr 55 fhr

90 life from the 2 skillers u can use now. Use 9 strg 9 life res jool for the sockets.

18 strg from the armors 19 strg from the boots 46 strg rings 29 strg amu = 112 strg.

This post was edited by leon123123 on Jul 6 2017 06:14pm
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i rate my inet 0/10 for double post...

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Jul 6 2017 06:28pm
Quote (leon123123 @ 7 Jul 2017 01:59)
Lets see.SO U like to make 200fcr sorc. RIght? Well ok Np.

25 divided by 8 = 3.1 casts per sec 105fcr
25 divided by 7 = 3.5 casts per sec 200fcr

so u gain 0.4 sec . Ok thats fair. Lets continue.


Fire or lighting?

Lighting, because the extra 5 fcr u gain from Griffon is an important factor.

Use Lightbolts. They make 26-28k dmg, when u stomp your enemy.


Griffon's + Cham 25
Eschuta's + rbf / Hoto ( not a fan for vita: Liferep is overrated =/= Es) 40
Quehegans + Fhr strg res jool 20 ( the 20fhr is the key. Morelife.)
Spirit Monarch 35 sop ( use an etheral version. As a sorc u wont block much, so the dura wont go down fast)
20 one of your FCR Amus
Arach 20
Magefist 20
2x 10 FCR Rings 20
Important: Use!20fhr strg prepatch BOOTS! Lifeboost. Liferep is not good for your build. Life> Liferep.

= 200fcr

the dmg:

http://diablo3./diablo-2/calculatoren/skill/?lang=de&char=sor&lvl=99&diff=2&set=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,20,25,1,22,20,22,5,22,20,22,20,22,1,22,1,22,1,22,20,22,0,0,1,22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0


You might also use an upraded QUehegans version for the strgbug.


The extra 20fhr from the new armor gives you more life after all as you would have had with viper. U dont need the strg from the diadem, because u can get nearly the same amount with some 2k prepatch boots.


Im not a fan of 200fcr, but ok, if u like it.. go ahead. U should also try to get near to 142 fhr bp if you like speed in duels. The animation is like no other speed. The loss of stats might be huge, but u should try it out one day.


result:

more dmg, more life



boots= 20fhr quehegangs = 20fhr 55 fhr

90 life from the 2 skillers u can use now. Use 9 strg 9 life res jool for the sockets.

18 strg from the armors 19 strg from the boots 46 strg rings 29 strg amu = 112 strg.


thats your big secret?
XD

its even same dmg as in viper, stop these false claims
you could have gone viper + bk instead and actually raise dmg + bo level

and still 200 fcr fb>200 fcr light
the dmg on light ranges too much, it can have advantage in some matches, but hard to win a ft5 with it

youre actually basing your char on a skill that requires you to stomp only, as if the other guy wouldnt just shoot north and win everytime

and how youre going to reach 250+ fr 250+ lr and around 450 cr with that?
your build is not very clever

This post was edited by Asbeihi on Jul 6 2017 06:33pm
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Jul 6 2017 06:30pm
Quote (Asbeihi @ Jul 7 2017 02:17am)
i rate my inet 0/10 for double post...


wow dude ;/ IVE read what u have written and my friends did too..

griffon(25)+amu(20)+armor(20fcr)+rings(20fcr)+Spirit(35fcr)+arach(20fcr)+eshutas(40fcr)+magefast(20fcr)

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nvm. Im glad you edited your comment.

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Quote (Asbeihi @ Jul 7 2017 02:48am)
Quote (leon123123 @ 7 Jul 2017 02:46)
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all you did was trading 20 fhr vs 35 all res
something i would never ever do

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Well: this extra 20fhr adds your baselife around 8x lifepoints. U were nearly right, when u said: Its impossible to make an other 200fcr build. I only showd you an alternative 200fcr build with Quehegans, that was my idea. AS i said: 200fcr is not good for many reasons, but i showed u a build, that actually is better after all. The 1 to all skill adds +150 life as well. U will gain much more life and dmg, therefore this is a better build. It was just something i came up with out of thin air, because i never would use a 200fcr sorc. I gave u 2/10 because u used the worst build for a pvp sorc: 200fcr. The items are goood, but they are not worth to be rated, becaue they are used for a build, that is one of the least of good options.

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Jul 7 2017 08:19am
Quote (leon123123 @ Jul 7 2017 01:54am)
Well: this extra 20fhr adds your baselife around 8x lifepoints. U were nearly right, when u said: Its impossible to make an other 200fcr build. I only showd you an alternative 200fcr build with Quehegans, that was my idea. AS i said: 200fcr is not good for many reasons, but i showed u a build, that actually is better after all. The 1 to all skill adds +150 life as well. U will gain much more life and dmg, therefore this is a better build. It was just something i came up with out of thin air, because i never would use a 200fcr sorc. I gave u 2/10 because u used the worst build for a pvp sorc: 200fcr. The items are goood, but they are not worth to be rated, becaue they are used for a build, that is one of the least of good options.



Depends if ur pvp sorc is meant for vs all or if dedicated to svs. Imo es sorc are way better overall. Imo 200fcr vita fber is best build for pure svs.
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Jul 7 2017 08:20am
Quote (Youshould @ 7 Jul 2017 16:19)
Depends if ur pvp sorc is meant for vs all or if dedicated to svs. Imo es sorc are way better overall. Imo 200fcr vita fber is best build for pure svs.


thank you lol

now tell me youshould is a noob svser and dont have a clue :P
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Jul 7 2017 09:14am
Quote (Asbeihi @ Jul 7 2017 04:20pm)
thank you lol

now tell me youshould is a noob svser and dont have a clue :P


i disagree with vik, who i showd how to chainlock^^i fully respect his opinion tho, because he is one of the best sorceress players that left.
What he is saying is: that vita 200fcr iS OP in a svs duel. Thats common sense. I never said something else, what is said was, that ES sorceress create the better SVa for many reasons and therefore the main build in eu.

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Quote (Youshould @ Jul 7 2017 04:19pm)
Depends if ur pvp sorc is meant for vs all or if dedicated to svs.Imo es sorc are way better overall.Imo 200fcr vita fber is best build for pure svs.


That was my point. Finally..somebody here understands.

This post was edited by leon123123 on Jul 7 2017 09:26am
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