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Wydz
#11 Dec 26 2015 03:42pm
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Quote (Sonicgundam @ Dec 26 2015 03:45am)
also, don't forget that you can get a lot of really good lenses barely used.

a lot of people buy SLRs thinking they're going to use them and the lenses they get and then barely use them.

you want to be careful buying zoom lenses used, as you don't know how they were treated (were the left zoomed out too much and dust crept in, so on and so forth), but good lenses in good condition can save you a lot of money.

also, go to a best buy and see what they have for open box cameras as well. people buy slrs thinking they'll use them, and then return them within the 2 week return policy because they couldn't really afford it or they ended up changing their mind.

it can save you 10-20%, and if they have a 3200 or 5200 which should be clearance, you could save even more. the bundle is a decent start, but you might be able to find something better for your $500.


I'd rather buy the latest and go from there

I don't wanna buy a camera that's already discontinued from the manufacturer, that's just me being extremely picky. Lenses would be a different story however probably but I don't know yet
Canadian_Man
#12 Dec 26 2015 04:53pm
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Quote (Wydz @ Dec 26 2015 02:42pm)
I'd rather buy the latest and go from there

I don't wanna buy a camera that's already discontinued from the manufacturer, that's just me being extremely picky. Lenses would be a different story however probably but I don't know yet


The D3300 uses the same sensor as the D3200 and D5200. It's just slightly tweaked. Basically everything is the same. The tech didn't advance.

Think of the D3200 to D3300 as a 1.0 to a 1.1... it's not a generation leap. It's morel like a small 10% iteration change.

Photography is weird.
Wydz
#13 Dec 26 2015 06:29pm
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Quote (Canadian_Man @ Dec 26 2015 02:53pm)
The D3300 uses the same sensor as the D3200 and D5200. It's just slightly tweaked. Basically everything is the same. The tech didn't advance.

Think of the D3200 to D3300 as a 1.0 to a 1.1... it's not a generation leap. It's morel like a small 10% iteration change.

Photography is weird.


I've watched so many reviews and videos on the d3300 so that's kinda the one I'm set on and I love how it feels in my hands.

So far my list is

D3300 bundle with the 55-200
35mm 1.8
70-300
And maybe a 150-600 if my friend ends up getting a lens he wants so I can buy his 150 lol
Canadian_Man
#14 Dec 26 2015 07:49pm
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Quote (Wydz @ Dec 26 2015 05:29pm)
I've watched so many reviews and videos on the d3300 so that's kinda the one I'm set on and I love how it feels in my hands.

So far my list is

D3300 bundle with the 55-200
35mm 1.8
70-300
And maybe a 150-600 if my friend ends up getting a lens he wants so I can buy his 150 lol


Which 150-600? Make sure it's not a 150-500. Big difference.

The four lenses worth looking at:
Nikon 200-500 ($1400 USD)
Sigma 150-600 Contemporary ($1000 USD)
Tamron 150-600 ($1070 USD)
Sigma 150-600 Sport ($1800 USD)

Don't go too balls in though... $1000+ is a big investment and it's more a wildlife kind of lens. Just depends on what you want to do.
Wydz
#15 Dec 26 2015 08:01pm
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Quote (Canadian_Man @ Dec 26 2015 05:49pm)
Which 150-600? Make sure it's not a 150-500. Big difference.

The four lenses worth looking at:
Nikon 200-500 ($1400 USD)
Sigma 150-600 Contemporary ($1000 USD)
Tamron 150-600 ($1070 USD)
Sigma 150-600 Sport ($1800 USD)

Don't go too balls in though... $1000+ is a big investment and it's more a wildlife kind of lens. Just depends on what you want to do.

http://www.amazon.com/Tamron-AFA011N700-150-600mm-Cameras-Essential/dp/B013VP0FSM/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1451181524&sr=8-14&keywords=150-600mm+nikon

It's this one and he said he's willing to sell it to me for 475 if I end up wanting it and he gets the one he wants because he wants the 150-600 sport for some reason when he's barely used this one lol

But this lens is so far down on my list of items I'd want right now
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#16 Dec 26 2015 09:01pm
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Quote (Wydz @ Dec 26 2015 07:01pm)
http://www.amazon.com/Tamron-AFA011N700-150-600mm-Cameras-Essential/dp/B013VP0FSM/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1451181524&sr=8-14&keywords=150-600mm%20nikon

It's this one and he said he's willing to sell it to me for 475 if I end up wanting it and he gets the one he wants because he wants the 150-600 sport for some reason when he's barely used this one lol

But this lens is so far down on my list of items I'd want right now


$475 is a steal for that lens.

Hopefully he's a good friend and there's nothing wrong with it. Also, it should be Nikon mount.

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Wydz
#17 Dec 26 2015 09:33pm
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$475 is a steal for that lens.

Hopefully he's a good friend and there's nothing wrong with it. Also, it should be Nikon mount.


Yeah he's a guy I've known for like 15 years. It's been used like 5 times or so that I know of and everytime I'm at his house it's always in one of his camera bags lol
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there's a sale right now for the d7100 you should get it. less than $500 and it can use both type of lenses (G and non G). The 3k and 5k series are a bunch of hoax. you can't really use it long term and the lens variety is very low.. unless you want to shoot manual.
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#19 Dec 27 2015 12:06am
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Quote (JAYZONE @ Dec 26 2015 10:39pm)
there's a sale right now for the d7100 you should get it. less than $500 and it can use both type of lenses (G and non G). The 3k and 5k series are a bunch of hoax. you can't really use it long term and the lens variety is very low.. unless you want to shoot manual.


I somewhat disagree. Screw-drive motors are a thing of the past. Any even remotely new lens has a built-in autofocus motor. There are very few screw-drive lenses that are worth considering, and most are flawed in ways that newer glass has improved on. That isn't to say there aren't good used deals out there... but used screw-drive purchases feel more nostalgic and extremely budgetary rather than sensible. That's my take. I know my opinion would be vehemently argued against by many people if it were posted on a dedicated photography forum.

The 3k and 5k cameras are pretty awesome. I will preface by countering the one argument a lot of old-timers or completely imbeciles come up with (that isn't a remark at anyone in this thread): Some people say "The D3XXX and D5XXX cameras don't have proper controls. You have to use the screen menu!" That is not true. There are several buttons on the camera that are programmable, so you can switch the function of the wheel. When I had a D5200, I could manually control ISO, aperture, and shutter speed all with the same wheel, by pressing and holding different buttons while using the wheel. This was intuitive, quick, and really pleasant. No easier or harder than my D750.

On to the legitimate downside to the D5xxx/D3xxx cameras: The viewfinders are small as FUCK. It's really hard to see anything, or frame anything up. Liveview isn't an alternative to a viewfinder at all, since it's soooo slow. *THAT* is the biggest #1 reason for a D7100 over a D3k/d5k. The controls aren't a big deal. The size/feel of the camera isn't really a big deal (although I prefer the feel of my D750 obviously over the D5200).

Image quality, ISO performance, etc, etc, all are basically the same. The autofocus performance of the D3200/D3300 is so-so. The D5200 has good autofocus performance, but the viewfinder is small so that makes tracking wildlife more difficult.

One final reason why the D5xxx/D3xxx cameras can be a little frustrating: If you get a lens that has focus calibration issues, these cameras cannot adjust for that. I bought a 35mm 1.8G (DX lens). For 99% of people out there, I hear they love it and don't have any issues. I got a copy that backfocused. I couldn't calibrate the lens because I had a D5200. I had one of two options: Sell the lens to someone who did have focus calibration, or send it in for warranty servicing. I hate warranty, I hate mailing things, so I sold it on Craigslist. My D750, on the other hand, has focus calibration. That has helped a little bit.
Wydz
#20 Dec 27 2015 12:45am
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All I'm concerned about is the d3300 suiting me well for the first year or so as a beginner?

My budget is 500. MAYBE 600 to start right now

And I have to order off amazon since I have 300 in gift cards to them haha

This post was edited by Wydz on Dec 27 2015 12:46am
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