im only against automation where a human is willing to do the job of a robot, so no.

I'm surprised that Ghot hasn't posted this complete failure to understand math and marginal tax rates (yet people like James Woods are amplifying it on Twitter and elsewhere):

Ba-a-a-a-a-ah.

It's right in line with the other low-information memes you post.

I had to take a former shipmate to task on this last night.

And I a mutual friend today.

its meme quality but to think Bernies social spending programs wont come after the middle class is a bit naive.

If you tax the ultra high net worth people, they will just move their money out country.
If you 'go after wall street' the stock market will plummet and with it take pension funds, 401k's, etc.
If you increase taxes on corporations you'll squeeze their margins, some won't be able to take it and go bankrupt. What happens to the people working there?

The rich always find ways to get off the hook and the family making 60 grand a year is going to get fucked the hardest.

while a lot of this is true a family making 60 grand a year with 2 adults and a few kids already pay a shit load of healthcare costs per year. i know that a "family plan" in my company is something like 400$/month. so that's 4800$/year.

meaning under a medicare for all plan (that will never clear the legislature) they'd already be able to take a 4800$ tax increase and break even, without looking into quality of care, just money.

i think a lot of the fear mongering around tax increases for M4A ignore this for more effectual stats, or worse they are told from the perspective of the uninsured after the mandate was removed, even though that's not terribly common for families.

the average left winger looks like this too, tho. just average looking people

The problem is this ignores the other effects of tax increases. Yeah you might trade the 4800 in healthcare costs for 4800 in tax increases but what about the effect on the business environment? Taxes would for sure go up on businesses. There's a fuck ton of business that have pretty slim margins, so even a slight increase in taxes on them you'd collapse them leading to higher unemployment which leads to less people to contributing to the socialized healthcare and so on. Same goes for the stock market and the impact on things like people's savings for retirement, college funds, etc.

It's not as simple as save 4800 here to give 4800 there and it's a wash.