im going to wield grief pb and eth colossus blade death on my frenzy barb.

I havnt bought the grief yet so i wanna know the ias breakpoints before buying it to know what ias it should have. Im able to socket my helm with ias jwl if needed. Plz post few ias breakpoints between 30-65 ias. --- edit: forgot to mention i also can equip highlords for higher bp, so ias bp's up to 85 are welcomed to be posted here

I also heard that offhand weapon can be glitched or something to increase the attack speed. Is this just a rumour? If not how does the weapon glitch happen? I tried to search it but couldnt findd anything.

This post was edited by jabraham on Mar 28 2012 12:50am

Try referring to this guide: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=7865239&f=21

Hopefully this is a good start for you.

i know that site but in this case it shows me different ias breakpoints that ive seen some frenzy guides say.

If i set main =phase blade - offhand =colossusblade - and frenzy = ~30 it says ias needed is something under 20.
I saw a guide that said pb+cb combo needs 68ias for max bp. Which of these is true?

Last time I checked, TitanSeal calculator was still not accurate about Frenzy attack speed.

See :
http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/forums/index.php?showtopic=82221

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=38476029&f=87&o=0
(for example page 12)

Running a calculator, here is what I found :

Phase-Blade 40ias + CB 0ias
Frenzy level 27-30 (+45 attack rate)

Off weapon ias | fpa (regular) | fpa (glitched)
0% | 15 | 12
9% | 14 | 12
13% |14 | 11
20% | 13 | 11
35% | 12 | 11
56% | 12 | 10
75% | 11 | 10
187% |10 | 10

Notice that 63% is required for 10fpa (glich) with CS Death, and I believe that 56% or 63% makes no difference (20amulet+20gloves+15helm+10belt).
Since CS has more damage than CB (and lower requirements if this matters), you should consider this.

ty again feanur for a great answer. Using death cs is not possible because i found really cheap death in cb and now that i bought it now i can afford grief, i might change to death cs when i get the fg. Can u post same thing for pb+cb that u posted just now. And im using dungo or soe so i dont get the 10ias from belt. I think i need 15%dr more than the ias.

E: and what does this "glitched" offhand thing mean.

This post was edited by jabraham on Mar 28 2012 03:51am

I'm not able to explain exactly how it is working, here's how I do :
Equip your slowest weapon gloves-side, and your fastest boots-side.
Each time you enter a game, click twice your fastest weapon. It is now considered as your "main" weapon. You are glitched.

Same table with Phase Blade 40ias + CS 0ias / level 27-30 frenzy :
0% | 16 | 12
8% | 15 | 12
15% | 15 | 11
16% | 14 | 11
29% | 13 | 11
46% | 12 | 11
63% | 12 | 10
95% | 11 | 10
250% | 10 | 10

The 11frames-breakpoint (glitched) on both CB or CS setup doesn't depend on your grief roll : 30 or 40ias makes no difference.
There might be some for other breakpoints if you use a 30-39ias grief instead of 40ias (I didn't check all).

Good luck !

one moere question. U wrote 46ias is 12fpa and 63ias is aswell 12fpa. Does the fpa 12 on both mean that they are both as fast or just that they have so little difference that they both are just shown as 12fpa

e: and does the glitch thing work like i put death on left weapon slot and grief on right and click grief twice and then it gets glitched?

This post was edited by jabraham on Mar 28 2012 05:34am

It means that the left hand weapon is 12fpa at both intervals while the right hand goes from 11 to 10

Sorry I used the term "fpa" in a wrong way in my previous post.

The given frames are the length of the whole animation for a swing.

In this case, "12 frames" (non glitch) means you deliver 2 hits (one with right and one with left weapon) within 12 frames. That's 6 fpa (frames per attack).
10 frames (glitch) is 5 fpa.

There's no difference for the total length of your swing between 46ias and 63ias (un-glitched). Both are as fast in the long term.
There could be a difference on the action frame however (you could hit sooner in the animation).



If "left weapon" refers to boots-side, I don't think you would be glitched, because gloves-side weapon is already your main weapon (default setting).
If it refers to gloves-side, yes, that's how it's working.