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May 28 2022 05:13pm
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Madrid vs Liverpool is the most repeated CL final, and I hope we have many more in the future. Two proper clubs in the days of FFP breaching by sheikhs and dictatorships.

Even with this loss, your season has been great, so it's time to feel pride rather than defeat.
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Quote (dro94 @ May 28 2022 11:43pm)
Weird game. Even though Courtois was man of the match, I don't think we ever looked like scoring. We got Real Madrided

Beating PSG, Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool in the knockouts is insane, so fair play to them

I'll be going to the parade tomorrow to congratulate the team on what has been overall a great season

That's the cup final Liverpool we all know :P

No Pulisic fluffing chances and penalties to save Pool this time.

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May 28 2022 05:54pm
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ggwp

Madrid vs Liverpool is the most repeated CL final, and I hope we have many more in the future. Two proper clubs in the days of FFP breaching by sheikhs and dictatorships.

Even with this loss, your season has been great, so it's time to feel pride rather than defeat.


lol. getting carried away a bit there, aren't ya? liverpool sure, but real?
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May 28 2022 10:12pm
Quote (fender @ 29 May 2022 01:54)
lol. getting carried away a bit there, aren't ya? liverpool sure, but real?



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Amongst all the evil still 2 of the „lesser“ evil ones there
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May 29 2022 03:20am
isnt it fair-play if i feel like Mourinho won 2 europa cup this season ? ^_^ :rofl:
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May 29 2022 05:06am
Quote (fender @ 29 May 2022 01:54)
lol. getting carried away a bit there, aren't ya? liverpool sure, but real?


Not sure what your point is. Madrid has had to cut on its spending over the last 4 years in order to pay for its stadium and abide UEFA regulations, while City and PSG are like "hahahaha corrupt oil money from inflated sponsorships go brrrrr". Not to mention the salary cuts and so on, since the pandemic.

In any case, both Madrid and Liverpool have attained their position, wealth, power and presitege through decades of hard work, stemming from times where sugar daddies were not a thing and footballers where happy to earn 50 times less than what they earn now. Same goes for other clubs like Bayern, Man Utd or Barça.

While I'm totally on board with new clubs going big, I can't respect them when they are artificially inflated like City or PSG, rathen than going through the FFP abiding path like, for example, Atletico.
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Quote (Andi @ 29 May 2022 06:12)
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Not sure what your point is. Madrid has had to cut on its spending over the last 4 years in order to pay for its stadium and abide UEFA regulations, while City and PSG are like "hahahaha corrupt oil money from inflated sponsorships go brrrrr". Not to mention the salary cuts and so on, since the pandemic.

In any case, both Madrid and Liverpool have attained their position, wealth, power and presitege through decades of hard work, stemming from times where sugar daddies were not a thing and footballers where happy to earn 50 times less than what they earn now. Same goes for other clubs like Bayern, Man Utd or Barça.

While I'm totally on board with new clubs going big, I can't respect them when they are artificially inflated like City or PSG, rathen than going through the FFP abiding path like, for example, Atletico.


well, i acknowledged in earlier rounds already that against psg and city, real madrid is indeed the slightly lesser evil, but let us not forget their loooong history of generating massive amounts of money out of seemingly nowhere (despite being heavily indebted actually) for one record transfer (and more importantly, insane contract) after the other. let's not forget the ridiculously crooked land deal that saved them from outright bankruptcy in the early 2000s, all of florentino perez' business and societal connections, spanish banks exercising extreme leniency towards a club STILL operating with massive debt juggling and accounting tricks to keep the books at least officially somewhat in accordance to the rules, their emirates main sponsor...

now obviously all of this is coming from a german perspective, where football clubs are held to rigorous financial standards, where even bayern's commitment to training camps in dubai are (imo justifiably) criticised, and any debt-ridden club is mercilessly relegated, regardless of history or standing - so i obviously don't expect people who simply grew with vastly different standards and expectations to demand the same from their league and clubs. i still think it offers some perspective to the different tiers of shady / questionable business dealings, in which in my opinion, the likes of real madrid and chelski occupy the second rank behind above mentioned clubs - way ahead of a club like liverpool for example.
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May 29 2022 06:23am
Quote (zarkadon @ May 29 2022 01:06pm)
Madrid has had to cut on its spending over the last 4 years


2018 = brahim diaz (15M), diaz (20M), Courtois (35M), Vinicius (45M), Odriozola (40M),
2019 = hazard (160M), Militao (50M), Rodrygo (45M), Jovic (60M), Mendy (48M)
2020 = Reinier (30M)
2021 = Camavinga (35M)

they stopped spending only 2 years ago, not 4 :rolleyes:

but basicaly, i totaly agree with you on the other points. I also have no problem with new big clubs, but thats a problem when the money comes from oil/gaz/petrol inflation and also directly from States <_<
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ May 28 2022 09:49pm)
sure at some point you gotta score, but i dont know what else a team could do that piled up 21:2 shots after around 80 minutes

defense shut down real all game until a failed shot became an assist

heartbreaking

and now one sadio mane to munich please B)


could do a swap: mane for lewa, but i think lewa has his heart set on barca

This post was edited by dro94 on May 29 2022 09:18am
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could do a swap: mane for lewa, but i think lewa has his heart set on barca


yeah, lewy wants barca as far as we know, he wont play in england (unless something shocking happens)
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