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Quote (vert @ Dec 16 2018 06:29am)
i'll wager you trashcans 1v2

how does that help my case ugly?


sorc vs sorc is soft... and delicate, vert

reminds of how I make women laugh with... is it soft? IT Is it JUICY?
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bahahahha
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Quote (Stories @ Dec 16 2018 12:15am)
Giving #1 to iPlayColdSorc due to dodge... I've received multiple pms about this user and he's provided me with ss's and timestamps via pm. Continued doges will result in Beastt being removed.
With that said let's try to cut the spam, as for Vert unless I hear otherwise you will not be allowed to join this ladder, send a pm to Eric (TheBroodwich) as he requested and go from there.

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Please follow the correct format when signing up, if your referring to es sorcs as a hybrid then yes, you can find the rules at the bottom of each update.


lol thats pretty lame dude,

We tried multiply times to meet since the 12th but both couldnt get in at same time,

Wasnt only me who couldnt always meet; not me doding when were on at diffrent times

We were suppose to due yesterday or today when Im off but idk bout that now

This post was edited by Beastt on Dec 16 2018 07:04am
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Dec 16 2018 07:06am
beast dodged my before too, anyway, this ladder is lame af without the mitigation rule for es, plz change rules or I delete my es blizzer
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Quote (Wyrmvater @ Dec 16 2018 01:06pm)
beast dodged my before too, anyway, this ladder is lame af without the mitigation rule for es, plz change rules or I delete my es blizzer


Lol what no,

spot complaining bout ur stupid rule haha
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Quote (Beastt @ Dec 16 2018 09:08am)
Lol what no,

spot complaining bout ur stupid rule haha


had to extend it twice because of you, I remember it was you that made me quit the ladder because it took so long

or maybe it was scboi

This post was edited by Wyrmvater on Dec 16 2018 07:11am
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Quote (Wyrmvater @ Dec 16 2018 01:10pm)
had to extend it twice because of you, I remember it was you that made me quit the ladder because it took so long


Never pmed you bout ladder duel,

zzz stop complaining so much wasnt me

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Quote (Truonk @ Jun 21 2018 02:04am)
Just because no one has complained doesn't mean that this issue won't ever be brought up.

"Es vs Vita duels: Es may use up to 5% maximum resistance, or a absorb item not over 20%, but Vita can still still use up to 10% max resistance or 1 dwarf star/vex rune."

The rules clearly state that one may choose to maximize their resistance up to an additional 5% of the 75% stock cap point and does not indicate that it is specific to any item OR use a absorb "item" not over 20%.



Here are some possible options for ES sorc vs fire:
note: there maybe more options that I have not tested and each build may vary.

I've found a way to maximize life and man and that's by using an SOP. While capping fire res to 80% and using SOP I'm able to maintain 78% es, no chance to trigger fhr w/ es up, and gain +/- 595 mana allowing me to trade in a duel more effectively instead of playing passive.

Using a dwarf - puts me at 77% es, allows a chance to trigger fhr, and drops mana down to a total of +/- 4,950

Using waterwalks - maintains 78% es, lose 10% move speed/ 10% fhr/ fire resits/ and mana from Es boots dropping mana down to a total of +/- 5,053. Thus, this also requires a new hat to make up the fire resits loss from boots.

Not changing anything - es remains the same, life/ mana remains the same, takes in more damage to health and allows for a chance to trigger FHR with es up. FHR triggers once hp loss is >/= 165 (tested and verified from reference from one of Legen's posts)

- Also please show me how to build this easy 3k/6k Es while maintaining 75% res, 79% Es, and good fire power.
- Can't use mana pots at 79% either.



SOP allows for less gear swaps, simply swapping es boots to light res and be done.

There will always be some bm players that will try to abuse this, but it also hurts those who are GM and won't abuse it. Abuse will rise anywhere if there's no or lack of enforcement. People who abuse it shouldn't be on the ladder anyways right? Same goes with those who over stack more than 450 cr. vs a cold sorc.? It's not like we don't know how many shots it takes to kill someone at 450 cr. Was this ever enforced or brought up? If gear checks/ s/s are required than so be it.



Correct, the rules and game play are fine. It doesn't mention anything about banning SOP for ES sorc the way that it's interpreted.

Proof of damage testing: as you can see below the avg damage is very close due to the discrepancy of hitting max or min dmg.

https://i.imgur.com/VHZejNL.png


Great argument /Not

counts unperm bmanas as if they're granted, could you guys plz adjust the god damn mitigation rule and make the mitigation rule applicable to people THAT DO NOT USE BMANAS? I get 1.7khp and 4.5kmana, how is mitigation rule not fair for a non-bmana user? gear check is always in place anyway.

This post was edited by Wyrmvater on Dec 16 2018 07:30am
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Dec 16 2018 07:32am
I think I just reinstated the mitigation rule for non-bmana users with my great argument.
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Quote (Wyrmvater @ Dec 15 2018 10:35pm)
look a thousand times better than you

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Lmfaooo
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