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Nov 1 2007 02:59pm
Quote (DrkHrt2 @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 04:51pm)
Sounds interesting, but a quick question. Does this build have to use wands to qualify as a drummer, or are you using them to get the elemental dame to kill off the creature after the CB does its job?


a drummer has to use wands as no drummer would use clubs to bang the skins. The elemental damage is to take out the critters after CB has done its job.
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Nov 1 2007 03:04pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 08:59pm)
a drummer has to use wands as no drummer would use clubs to bang the skins. The elemental damage is to take out the critters after CB has done its job.


I see, then the current build I am developing would not be considered a Drummer. It has a few of the same ideas, but is going in a different direction.

Side note. You mentioned Open Wounds as well as Crushing Blows to cause a Slow but Painful death, Now because you are using the lemental to finsh the job, I have to take it that open wounds does not finish the job?
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Nov 1 2007 03:08pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 08:51pm)
Deth metal is so not for me now that i have matured. No offense to anyone who listens to it, but I do have this need to understand what the singer is actually singing.
Not my favourite style of music either (I prefer other kinds of metal, black/gothic/power etc...), but that's besides the point
And mature is such an ugly word...

Quote (The_Morpheus @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 08:51pm)
Treachery

5% Chance To Cast Level 15 Fade When Struck
25% Chance To Cast level 15 Venom On Striking
+2 To Assassin Skills
+45% Increased Attack Speed
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
Cold Resist +30%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters

so with the 35 from guilemes, 25 from goblins, duress adds 15 for a grand total of 75%

However, the added cold damage is really really nice. I hate poison damage as it resets itself as you strike again.

Treachery would be good as a prebuff but I am not about to prebuff 3x with this character. 1x for deamon limb, 1x for BO shouts, and then an additional 1x for fade. Too much for me.

But... you didn't calculate anything...
Let's see, we'll do some very simple maths and assume that you have no ias, and there are no breakpoints (i hate calculating with breakpoints).

With duress, you'll hit 1 time, 75 CB = 75 CB per x time unit
With Treachery, you'll hit 1.45 times, 60 CB = 87 CB per x time unit

So treachery triggers CB more often then Duress in this setup.
The poison damage ends every 0.4 seconds anyway, since it's from venom. So no big problems there.

And you use a BO stick? Never would've thought that...
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Nov 1 2007 03:18pm
sounds cool
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Quote (yerkyerk @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 09:08pm)
And you use a BO stick? Never would've thought that...

Never mind the last part, I forgot you were a barbarian.

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Nov 1 2007 08:35pm
Quote (DrkHrt2 @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 05:04pm)
I see, then the current build I am developing would not be considered a Drummer. It has a few of the same ideas, but is going in a different direction.

Side note. You mentioned Open Wounds as well as Crushing Blows to cause a Slow but Painful death, Now because you are using the lemental to finsh the job, I have to take it that open wounds does not finish the job?


OW would take forever, its there mainly for the stopping of the critters regeneration.

@ yerk, i just added up the CB to get to 75% of the time. I plan on using IAS in the gloves, and probably on the one wand. I do not think I need more than that really. If so, I hope a highlords falls for me soon.
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Nov 2 2007 01:59am
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Thu, Nov 1 2007, 06:27pm)
I doubt you have somthing i need considering the ring in waiting is 12 fire, 23 cold, 36 light, 12 psn res with 55 AR as some LL or some such on it.

But I am always open to other options. Feel free to post what you have, just crop it so I dont have to wait to see all of the 800x600 screen.



nvm....u are north america realm player, i play in europe.

nope ring isn't that good.

15 dex
9all resis
dual leech
XD anyway anyhow, resis to low for your needs XD

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Nov 2 2007 06:44am
Well the search for a 3os armor and elemental damage wands was fruitless last night. For right now, the Barb is stuck in the rougues camp in NM. He will not go any further without a second wand. The MFing did produce some items that I have not had this ladder such as atma wail armor and ghoulhide gloves. Other than that, it was pretty un eventful. I think only 4 elite armors fell and none were socketed. Oh yea, aldurs armor fell from a popable in act4. I will be searching tonight for the drummers gears.
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Nov 2 2007 02:08pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Fri, Nov 2 2007, 12:44pm)
Well the search for a 3os armor and elemental damage wands was fruitless last night.  For right now, the Barb is stuck in the rougues camp in NM.  He will not go any further without a second wand.  The MFing did produce some items that I have not had this ladder such as atma wail armor and ghoulhide gloves.  Other than that, it was pretty un eventful.  I think only 4 elite armors fell and none were socketed.  Oh yea, aldurs armor fell from a popable in act4.  I will be searching tonight for the drummers gears.




hum^^. bad luck about thoose armors...
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Nov 2 2007 03:15pm
Do you still have your socketable quest in norm? If so I'd like to suggest perhapse, maybe doing a few solo norm cow games and look for either BP or Light Armor. Both when socketed will give you 3 os, It is how I got my treachery for my baba. I tried to mf in both norm and nm (I'm up to Act 2 currently) for 3 os armor, and even kept checking all vendors with no luck. Ran 1 cow and Found a regular BP, bam I had my treachery.
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