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This dropped today and had me wondering if it had rolled 200% but not masters and repair + 2os larz if it would be useful? I'm going to guess no, but I aint all that sharp.



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Mar 24 2024 09:36pm
req level 51 man, oath way better
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Quote (phdinprocrastination @ Mar 24 2024 10:36pm)
req level 51 man, oath way better


Masters mod bumped it up. I was curious if it would be useable if it had just rolled 200% ED which is lvl30.
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Quote (SavoySpecial @ Mar 24 2024 11:40pm)
Masters mod bumped it up. I was curious if it would be useable if it had just rolled 200% ED which is lvl30.



req 33



master's is 48

knight's is lvl 30 but only 65 ed and 100 ar. merciless is sub 30 at 100 ed
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Mar 24 2024 09:49pm
Quote (phdinprocrastination @ Mar 24 2024 10:45pm)
https://i.ibb.co/nLpvXC1/image.png
req 33

https://i.ibb.co/FKDyNBy/image.png

master's is 48

knight's is lvl 30 but only 65 ed and 100 ar. merciless is sub 30 at 100 ed


My affix site says Ferocious mod is 41. 41*.75=30.75 (truncated) to lvl30

Is my info bad?
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Quote (SavoySpecial @ Mar 24 2024 11:49pm)
My affix site says Ferocious mod is 41. 41*.75=30.75 (truncated) to lvl30

Is my info bad?


yes. google "d2 affix calc" and use first link. cannot link here for some reason sorry
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yes. google "d2 affix calc" and use first link. cannot link here for some reason sorry


I opened the lookup up table on that website (which is just a txt file). There is no calculation it just references 33. Arreat Summit clearly states the lvl of an item is 75% of the highest affix level. Both Arreats and that lookup table list the affix level at 41. So it should calculate out to 30.
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Mar 24 2024 10:19pm
200% ED on Armor though is listed at Magic[45] Rare[50] which would put them at above 30.
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Quote (SavoySpecial @ Mar 25 2024 12:17am)
I opened the lookup up table on that website (which is just a txt file). There is no calculation it just references 33. Arreat Summit clearly states the lvl of an item is 75% of the highest affix level. Both Arreats and that lookup table list the affix level at 41. So it should calculate out to 30.


you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the affix system works. master's mod on a magic naga is req level 48 and maxes out at 150 ed.



this item maxes out at 200 ed and is req level 33



these are real images of items with the mods on them. either your source is wrong or you don't know how to use it properly.

https://i.ibb.co/zQkDkSd/image.png

there is a lot more here than just a txt file. just use the site and mess around and stop trying to figure out archaic and hard to understand wikis
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you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the affix system works. master's mod on a magic naga is req level 48 and maxes out at 150 ed.

https://i.ibb.co/XYSMnCh/image.png

this item maxes out at 200 ed and is req level 33

https://i.ibb.co/nLpvXC1/image.png

these are real images of items with the mods on them. either your source is wrong or you don't know how to use it properly.

https://i.ibb.co/zQkDkSd/image.png

there is a lot more here than just a txt file. just use the site and mess around and stop trying to figure out archaic and hard to understand wikis


I understand perfectly how the prefix and suffix system works with rare and magic items. That's not even the question... which is how "required level" is derived. Nothing you stated clears that up. Simply stating it's 'x' mod and has a required level of 'y' explains nothing.

In my own digging it appears the text file look up table that site uses is extracted from the game files and that Arreats and other sites are wrong when they say "75% of the highest affix level" even though it does work in some cases. None explain why the required level is lower than the affix level... nor a logical explanation how its derived.

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