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Mar 25 2024 03:04pm
Quote (D2Traveller @ Mar 25 2024 01:12pm)
40-15 arreats
eDeath Zerk
Fort/Nigma
40-15 stormshield
20 ias 10 cb str dex life res gloves/Rends
Highlords/P maras
P Raven
Melee Ring With Life Steal, Ar, Str, Dex, Life
P Gores
40-15 Dungos
2x 40 hoto or 2x 3wc str sticks


y death over grief? y not 2 hander death?
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Mar 26 2024 10:31am
keeping this going. I was wrong earlier.

disclaimer:
this is all just my opinions. no disrespect intended. I'm just trying to provide information and further discussion.

if survivability=damage in priority and they are the priority:
-horking is out because you will want the skills points other places.
-shields>2handers
-1 point to ww, for escape and leaching
-1 point to warcry, for the stun
-mana and life leach are still necessary

revised set up:
arreats
phoenix
grief
dungo
loh
gores
highlords
ravenforst
dual leach
enigma

?s:
how much does fcr effect survivability?
should you max block with phoenix?
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Mar 26 2024 10:52am
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Mar 25 2024 07:38pm)
so why fcr? aren't the 2 hotos enough? wouldn't you want to go 2 ravenfrosts with a phoenix? if you don't want to hork the ar for bosses and champs would be better. 20 dex for more block chance too.


Because hoto is to teleport to location.
then 40fcr for teleport between packs.

It's not a big issue if you decide slower fcr.
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Mar 26 2024 10:59am
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Mar 26 2024 05:31pm)
keeping this going. I was wrong earlier.

disclaimer:
this is all just my opinions. no disrespect intended. I'm just trying to provide information and further discussion.

if survivability=damage in priority and they are the priority:
-horking is out because you will want the skills points other places.
-shields>2handers
-1 point to ww, for escape and leaching
-1 point to warcry, for the stun
-mana and life leach are still necessary

revised set up:
arreats
phoenix
grief
dungo
loh
gores
highlords
ravenforst
dual leach
enigma

?s:
how much does fcr effect survivability?
should you max block with phoenix?


U dont want to max block. It will get u fbr stuck, it will prevent you from attacking and in general slow you down.

If u want more survivability its theese options:
Instead of guilaume you go arreat for res + damage balance, or coa for res and dr% with focus on survival.
Strings instead of arach.
U can ofc also use stuff like raven, wisp, dwarf.

But all theese things can slow you down to much, i would just go max damage + fcr as long as u have the resists.
If ur on hardcore or pushing super high level i would just go stormshield + arreat + raven + wisp or smt like that, i dno. Start max damage, see if u have an issue dying.
In my experience dying is lack of experience with the build, you have howl, u have wc, you have bo, you have healing aura when it comes to pheonix.

So yes, incase u wanna drop 1 item a string is nice to add a little mdr and dr%. Pheonix have fire absorb and some light absorb. Ur kinda only low on DR%.
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Mar 26 2024 11:33am
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Mar 26 2024 06:31pm)
keeping this going. I was wrong earlier.

disclaimer:
this is all just my opinions. no disrespect intended. I'm just trying to provide information and further discussion.

if survivability=damage in priority and they are the priority:
-horking is out because you will want the skills points other places.
-shields>2handers
-1 point to ww, for escape and leaching
-1 point to warcry, for the stun
-mana and life leach are still necessary

revised set up:
arreats
phoenix
grief
dungo
loh
gores
highlords
ravenforst
dual leach
enigma

?s:
how much does fcr effect survivability?
should you max block with phoenix?


What is point of dungo when you can use string of ears ?

This post was edited by MultipleUser1 on Mar 26 2024 11:33am
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Quote (gel87 @ Mar 26 2024 01:59pm)
U dont want to max block. It will get u fbr stuck, it will prevent you from attacking and in general slow you down.

If u want more survivability its theese options:
Instead of guilaume you go arreat for res + damage balance, or coa for res and dr% with focus on survival.
Strings instead of arach.
U can ofc also use stuff like raven, wisp, dwarf.

But all theese things can slow you down to much, i would just go max damage + fcr as long as u have the resists.
If ur on hardcore or pushing super high level i would just go stormshield + arreat + raven + wisp or smt like that, i dno. Start max damage, see if u have an issue dying.
In my experience dying is lack of experience with the build, you have howl, u have wc, you have bo, you have healing aura when it comes to pheonix.

So yes, incase u wanna drop 1 item a string is nice to add a little mdr and dr%. Pheonix have fire absorb and some light absorb. Ur kinda only low on DR%.


I went 60-70% block and never found my attack got interrupted and the survivability increase allows you to go all offence on the rest of your gear

This post was edited by Void511 on Mar 26 2024 12:19pm
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Mar 26 2024 12:31pm
Quote (MultipleUser1 @ Mar 26 2024 10:33am)
What is point of dungo when you can use string of ears ?


because berserk is the main attack, and it can't leach life. also dungo give up to 40 vit and life reg.
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Mar 26 2024 12:34pm
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Mar 26 2024 03:31pm)
because berserk is the main attack, and it can't leach life. also dungo give up to 40 vit and life reg.


You’ll still be using ww to sustain a bit between redem procs and prior to corpses being present. Would recomend soe over dungo if you don’t have another source of leech 100%. Vita from items isn’t Bo able so it’s a small difference and life rep is completely irrelevant for pvm except on low life characters like es sorc

This post was edited by Void511 on Mar 26 2024 12:34pm
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Mar 26 2024 12:44pm
Quote (Void511 @ Mar 26 2024 11:34am)
You’ll still be using ww to sustain a bit between redem procs and prior to corpses being present. Would recomend soe over dungo if you don’t have another source of leech 100%. Vita from items isn’t Bo able so it’s a small difference and life rep is completely irrelevant for pvm except on low life characters like es sorc


my set up has arreats and a dual leach ring that is why i went with dungo over string of ears. if you go with gface or coa, yeah soe would be better.
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Mar 26 2024 12:49pm
new question coa or arreats? i think that the most important question about that would be if a grief pb benefits from an extra 15 ias?
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