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Mar 10 2024 03:53pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 10 2024 01:45pm)
Do you believe one should have to show ID to buy a firearm, the ownership of which is a constitutional right?


False equivalence. I already compared it to freedom of speech.
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Quote (vexxed56 @ Mar 10 2024 02:53pm)
False equivalence. I already compared it to freedom of speech.


Didn't answer my question
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Mar 10 2024 04:04pm
Canada's three options seem sufficient. Don't see why similar couldn't be done in the USA.
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A "simple" 5 hour visit standing in line to get identification theres only a reason to get if you drive. 5 hours isnt long enough lets make it 10 hours at the dmv considering most likely the majority of people in America probably dont have id. Lets make everyone in the US get identification and normalize checking someones id everytime they want to exercise their constiutional rights. Wanna stand on the corner with a MAGA flag sorry we need to see some ID for freedom of speech. Lol ok. They already check if you are a valid voter multiple times.


I get that some people think it's a hassle to obtain a driver's license. But what about birth certificate? Everybody should automatically have one.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 10 2024 06:28pm)
I get that some people think it's a hassle to obtain a driver's license. But what about birth certificate? Everybody should automatically have one.




Most states also have plain ID cards.

So anyone that says.... "Oh it's so hard getting ID" is either a crook or is full of it.

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Mar 10 2024 04:59pm
And why the hell are they allowing illegal invaders to vote?
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Quote (vexxed56 @ Mar 10 2024 02:24pm)
Having a job isnt a constitutional right. Like I said, do you believe we should normalize government officials checking your photo id everytime you want to exercise your constitutional rights? And do you not know that there already exist multiple steps to check that you are a valid voter? If youre being obtuse then youre just proving Proximity right, this is just to keep you in denial.


Illegals don't have US' constitutional rights. They don't get to vote, and this is impossible to enforce without checking people's IDs.
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Quote (vexxed56 @ Mar 10 2024 05:09pm)
A "simple" 5 hour visit standing in line to get identification theres only a reason to get if you drive. 5 hours isnt long enough lets make it 10 hours at the dmv considering most likely the majority of people in America probably dont have id. Lets make everyone in the US get identification and normalize checking someones id everytime they want to exercise their constiutional rights. Wanna stand on the corner with a MAGA flag sorry we need to see some ID for freedom of speech. Lol ok. They already check if you are a valid voter multiple times.


The vast majority of Americans have a driving license. You need an ID in order to open a bank account, and it is legal for a state to require an ID before you exercise other constitutional rights like buying a firearm.

The most stringent test for constitutionality is whether there's a compelling government need and whether the restriction in question is the least onerous available. Yes, the government has a compelling need to verify that voting is conducted in a legal manner, as the voting process underpins the legitimacy of the entire constitutional process. And so long as the government accepts multiple forms of voter identification, or even better, offers free ID, it passes the onerous test.
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Mar 10 2024 06:16pm
It should be pretty simple to send out a free voter Id through mail, which they send all other sorts of important docs, like IRS tax debts
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