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Mar 18 2024 12:27pm
If they wanted to make d4 worse then yeah they could probably make it more like d2
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Mar 18 2024 12:29pm
Quote (Madmaxio @ Mar 18 2024 01:00pm)
Copies were sold only because of the brand and good will, which were build by other games and other people. You said it has done great - do you know marketing budget, and overall cost of the game and server infrastructure? Probably not.

200k daily users is just pure lie, you don't have those numbers. And still it would be not that much compared to brands of this caliber. Please stop spreading fake info and fool people who might think it is true.


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Not trying to fool anyone these stats are available at activio and multiple other sites that provide estimates for these games it's not some conspiracy


D4 probably owns them all tho so they can fudge the numbers too make there game look alive or definitely paying them off, some how there foot is in the door
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Mar 18 2024 12:39pm
Quote (Bigworm @ 18 Mar 2024 21:18)
Not trying to fool anyone these stats are available at activio and multiple other sites that provide estimates for these games it's not some conspiracy


How can you estimate prvate service activity, and we were told countless times - it is casual audience mostly. Clearly casual audience don't hangout on twich, youtube and so on. What are sources of that info then?

Here is info from steam:

"Steam player count for Diablo® IV is currently 3475 players live. Diablo® IV had an all-time peak of 28836 concurrent players on 25 November 2023."

If blizzard decided to move to steam and got only 3.5k daily players there, well, it clearly shows something.
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Mar 18 2024 12:41pm
Quote (Madmaxio @ Mar 18 2024 01:39pm)
How can you estimate prvate service activity, and we were told countless times - it is casual audience mostly. Clearly casual audience don't hangout on twich, youtube and so on. What are sources of that info then?

Here is info from steam:

"Steam player count for Diablo® IV is currently 3475 players live. Diablo® IV had an all-time peak of 28836 concurrent players on 25 November 2023."

If blizzard decided to move to steam and got only 3.5k daily players there, well, it clearly shows something.


If you want to just use steam poes is 5k now why's that so small like d4s?
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Quote (Bigworm @ 18 Mar 2024 21:29)
D4 probably owns them all tho so they can fudge the numbers too make there game look alive or definitely paying them off, some how there foot is in the door


This just reminds reviews on release from gaming sites - it was all somewhere near 9/10. But on release it was clearly almost for everyone it is not even close to 9/10, so they just got paied for those reviews, lol. Can you imagine that?
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If you want to just use steam poes is 5k now why's that so small like d4s?


Because the game is available on so many platforms and you'd have to gather them all together omg I wish a site would
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Quote (Bigworm @ 18 Mar 2024 21:41)
If you want to just use steam poes is 5k now why's that so small like d4s?


As I said, blizzard main platform is private, this means steam numbers here are not something to use as a raw data. Still they reached not that much people there compared to scale we are talking about.

I don't see point to compare it to poe, it is just different league.
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Mar 18 2024 12:46pm
Quote (Madmaxio @ Mar 18 2024 01:39pm)
How can you estimate prvate service activity, and we were told countless times - it is casual audience mostly. Clearly casual audience don't hangout on twich, youtube and so on. What are sources of that info then?

Here is info from steam:

"Steam player count for Diablo® IV is currently 3475 players live. Diablo® IV had an all-time peak of 28836 concurrent players on 25 November 2023."

If blizzard decided to move to steam and got only 3.5k daily players there, well, it clearly shows something.


Also using steam is a massive joke to compare d4 player base, the game wasn't released on steam for about 3 months after launch. You could use this for last epoch because it's the only place it's available
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