Quote (iPez @ Jan 29 2024 05:47pm)

If TFT rmt's they definitely use jsp to sell mirrors in standard to buy early mirrors in league.. I can think of a few TFT jspers myself

:blush:

Quote (Snyft2 @ Jan 28 2024 06:35pm)

well i hate being the one dropping black pills, but okay i guess someone has to.. it all started on my first practice job interview, where we (a group of 30ish people) got the common question "why do you consider yourself a good addition to our team". i ofc didnt have anything prepared so i started talking random shit like how im a team player and community matters a lot to me and all that stuff no one believes anymore. for the record, i did believe it when i said it back then. anyways, only one person answered that question correctly. the correct answer was "because i will bring you money". the guy went full krusty krab and the interviewer was like, you are in :mellow:

so yeah, unless its a family run business, it all comes down to money. if someone needs proof, ggg sold itself to tencent :mellow: so no matter how personable the CEO of a company might be, he is there for the money. chris wilson is a good example. now i might just be resistant to that stuff because im working a job where people are expected to lie so i can see right through his bullshit and dont even consider him personable, but i seriously dont get why that guy has a cult following :unsure: calling him christ wilson and all that is borderline retarded. whenever you see a superficially charismatic CEO, thats a massive red flag for a cluster B disorder of some kind. again if someone needs proof, remember when chris went full narcissistic rage and banned that matth guy for verbal abuse of a level i dont even report <_<

so heres examples that we are all acquainted with:

- d2 and the jsp and botting problems.the problem with jsp was that it gave unfair advantage. but everyone used it. blizz couldnt just go "wow we gonna ban rmt" because that would mean banning everyone and taking a massive money cut, so jsp was allowed. botting was also a problem, but, again, everyone was doing it. banning 90% of the community meant a massive cut, so blizz was hesitant to do this too. basically a company thinks like "fuck the community, we will ban something if that decision gains us more money than it loses"

- jsp and its own botting problem.jsp was a bot site with trade as a minor perk at the beginning, but the trade worked so well that i bet the decision was made something in the lines of "we will lose like 5~10% income if just go as a legit trading site, but we will gain much more than that". but like a politician who did a nude photoshoot 30 years before her career skyrocketed, jsp is now trying to hide its past, and now even mentioning bots on jsp is problematic

- now lets apply this to poe. in the beginning a high percentage of poe players were og d2 players, meaning most used jsp. ggg was fine with it back then if you guys remember. the few that cried were rightfully ignored. not because of the community, but because poe was just another obscure arpg from a company no one had heard about, a company which couldnt afford to lose the majority of the players back then. then, as the normies got into it, more and more just used discord and the % of jsp users went down low enough that the gain by appeasing the non-jsp community was higher than the loss of the jsp community :wacko: so now they can afford to openly talk about us as the villains, they dont need us anymore ^_^
now discord is in the same position as jsp once was. too many people are using it and ggg cant afford to meddle. does ggg itself (ab)use it? could be. id say no, but only because they dont need to :unsure: same as with jsp banning botting, being clean at this moment seems like the better option as the net gain doesnt seem to be worth the risk. personally i would guess ggg is now thinking along the lines of "how can we offer the same or better services on our own site and replace discord?" and that PR shit of theirs was just to buy them time. you know, eliminate the middleman and all that!


tldr af but hopefully worth reading :cry: and yes, long live jsp and especially my jsp brothers :wub:

Quote (Snyft2 @ Jan 28 2024 06:35pm)

well i hate being the one dropping black pills, but okay i guess someone has to.. it all started on my first practice job interview, where we (a group of 30ish people) got the common question "why do you consider yourself a good addition to our team". i ofc didnt have anything prepared so i started talking random shit like how im a team player and community matters a lot to me and all that stuff no one believes anymore. for the record, i did believe it when i said it back then. anyways, only one person answered that question correctly. the correct answer was "because i will bring you money". the guy went full krusty krab and the interviewer was like, you are in :mellow:

so yeah, unless its a family run business, it all comes down to money. if someone needs proof, ggg sold itself to tencent :mellow: so no matter how personable the CEO of a company might be, he is there for the money. chris wilson is a good example. now i might just be resistant to that stuff because im working a job where people are expected to lie so i can see right through his bullshit and dont even consider him personable, but i seriously dont get why that guy has a cult following :unsure: calling him christ wilson and all that is borderline retarded. whenever you see a superficially charismatic CEO, thats a massive red flag for a cluster B disorder of some kind. again if someone needs proof, remember when chris went full narcissistic rage and banned that matth guy for verbal abuse of a level i dont even report <_<

so heres examples that we are all acquainted with:

- d2 and the jsp and botting problems.the problem with jsp was that it gave unfair advantage. but everyone used it. blizz couldnt just go "wow we gonna ban rmt" because that would mean banning everyone and taking a massive money cut, so jsp was allowed. botting was also a problem, but, again, everyone was doing it. banning 90% of the community meant a massive cut, so blizz was hesitant to do this too. basically a company thinks like "fuck the community, we will ban something if that decision gains us more money than it loses"

- jsp and its own botting problem.jsp was a bot site with trade as a minor perk at the beginning, but the trade worked so well that i bet the decision was made something in the lines of "we will lose like 5~10% income if just go as a legit trading site, but we will gain much more than that". but like a politician who did a nude photoshoot 30 years before her career skyrocketed, jsp is now trying to hide its past, and now even mentioning bots on jsp is problematic

- now lets apply this to poe. in the beginning a high percentage of poe players were og d2 players, meaning most used jsp. ggg was fine with it back then if you guys remember. the few that cried were rightfully ignored. not because of the community, but because poe was just another obscure arpg from a company no one had heard about, a company which couldnt afford to lose the majority of the players back then. then, as the normies got into it, more and more just used discord and the % of jsp users went down low enough that the gain by appeasing the non-jsp community was higher than the loss of the jsp community :wacko: so now they can afford to openly talk about us as the villains, they dont need us anymore ^_^
now discord is in the same position as jsp once was. too many people are using it and ggg cant afford to meddle. does ggg itself (ab)use it? could be. id say no, but only because they dont need to :unsure: same as with jsp banning botting, being clean at this moment seems like the better option as the net gain doesnt seem to be worth the risk. personally i would guess ggg is now thinking along the lines of "how can we offer the same or better services on our own site and replace discord?" and that PR shit of theirs was just to buy them time. you know, eliminate the middleman and all that!


tldr af but hopefully worth reading :cry: and yes, long live jsp and especially my jsp brothers :wub:

Quote (iPez @ Jan 29 2024 08:47pm)

If TFT rmt's they definitely use jsp to sell mirrors in standard to buy early mirrors in league.. I can think of a few TFT jspers myself

:blush:

Quote (MaysLanding @ Jan 30 2024 10:25am)

I read this and I agree.

On another note, I think TFT tanking is what is causing all the prices to normalize. I think we are just seeing the tip of the TFT iceberg.

Quote (iRMT @ Jan 29 2024 09:48pm)

Me

Quote (iPez @ Jan 31 2024 02:46pm)

I am Jenebu

Quote (Snyft2 @ Jan 28 2024 06:35pm)

well i hate being the one dropping black pills, but okay i guess someone has to.. it all started on my first practice job interview, where we (a group of 30ish people) got the common question "why do you consider yourself a good addition to our team". i ofc didnt have anything prepared so i started talking random shit like how im a team player and community matters a lot to me and all that stuff no one believes anymore. for the record, i did believe it when i said it back then. anyways, only one person answered that question correctly. the correct answer was "because i will bring you money". the guy went full krusty krab and the interviewer was like, you are in :mellow:

so yeah, unless its a family run business, it all comes down to money. if someone needs proof, ggg sold itself to tencent :mellow: so no matter how personable the CEO of a company might be, he is there for the money. chris wilson is a good example. now i might just be resistant to that stuff because im working a job where people are expected to lie so i can see right through his bullshit and dont even consider him personable, but i seriously dont get why that guy has a cult following :unsure: calling him christ wilson and all that is borderline retarded. whenever you see a superficially charismatic CEO, thats a massive red flag for a cluster B disorder of some kind. again if someone needs proof, remember when chris went full narcissistic rage and banned that matth guy for verbal abuse of a level i dont even report <_<

so heres examples that we are all acquainted with:

- d2 and the jsp and botting problems.the problem with jsp was that it gave unfair advantage. but everyone used it. blizz couldnt just go "wow we gonna ban rmt" because that would mean banning everyone and taking a massive money cut, so jsp was allowed. botting was also a problem, but, again, everyone was doing it. banning 90% of the community meant a massive cut, so blizz was hesitant to do this too. basically a company thinks like "fuck the community, we will ban something if that decision gains us more money than it loses"

- jsp and its own botting problem.jsp was a bot site with trade as a minor perk at the beginning, but the trade worked so well that i bet the decision was made something in the lines of "we will lose like 5~10% income if just go as a legit trading site, but we will gain much more than that". but like a politician who did a nude photoshoot 30 years before her career skyrocketed, jsp is now trying to hide its past, and now even mentioning bots on jsp is problematic

- now lets apply this to poe. in the beginning a high percentage of poe players were og d2 players, meaning most used jsp. ggg was fine with it back then if you guys remember. the few that cried were rightfully ignored. not because of the community, but because poe was just another obscure arpg from a company no one had heard about, a company which couldnt afford to lose the majority of the players back then. then, as the normies got into it, more and more just used discord and the % of jsp users went down low enough that the gain by appeasing the non-jsp community was higher than the loss of the jsp community :wacko: so now they can afford to openly talk about us as the villains, they dont need us anymore ^_^
now discord is in the same position as jsp once was. too many people are using it and ggg cant afford to meddle. does ggg itself (ab)use it? could be. id say no, but only because they dont need to :unsure: same as with jsp banning botting, being clean at this moment seems like the better option as the net gain doesnt seem to be worth the risk. personally i would guess ggg is now thinking along the lines of "how can we offer the same or better services on our own site and replace discord?" and that PR shit of theirs was just to buy them time. you know, eliminate the middleman and all that!


tldr af but hopefully worth reading :cry: and yes, long live jsp and especially my jsp brothers :wub:

Quote (Commm @ Jan 28 2024 06:55pm)

Is GGG connected? Someone at GGG in on that side of the RMT business? Coincidence?

GGG seems to despise d2j, and will gladly ban for "rmt" with fg, but this drama of pretty obvious rmt, alongside whatever else is going on, harassments etc., which we all know GGG is pretty heavy handed with if you're a normie. They wanted the "community to handle this as it is a community issue".

Long live d2jsp.

Quote (MaysLanding @ Jan 30 2024 04:25pm)

I read this and I agree.

On another note, I think TFT tanking is what is causing all the prices to normalize. I think we are just seeing the tip of the TFT iceberg.

Quote (Commm @ Jan 30 2024 06:29pm)

:hail:

Blizzard is a great example of the double standards of RMT (their message doesn't match their motive). Buying gold on AH good, buying gold from chinese seller bad. It's like weed being illegal one day, then the next day you're seeing government advertisements selling it to you.

Literally saw someone in d4 the other day saying "rmt is bad in lost ark because it causes inflation". When in reality using the "government (game) approved sources" is really just extortion.

TBF blizzard has always had a hard-stance on botting as long as I can remember. To me, while botting and RMT go hand-in-hand, I think botting is way more detrimental to games and their economies than RMT, especially if there are no bots to RMT from, if that makes sense.

Quote (Dmitriy @ Jan 29 2024 07:25pm)

Ain’t nobody reading this shit bruh.