Quote (RPG5621 @ Jan 12 2024 10:35am)

:thumbsup:

i tried fber... it works but its mediocre at best. any good lv 18 zon or pally should easily win 5-0 if they play right ( with 75% res sorc's dmg is almost a joke still at lv 25)

pretty much its like 25-50 fbs vs 2-3 good charges or 3-6 good ga's

edit... you can not even have a chance if you tele stomp...

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 12 2024 11:41am)

this will be true for all 24s, they cannot really beat 18 pally or zon. trap, fissure even, nec, sorc. doesnt matter all still lose.

the only exception, and it sounds bonkers, is tele nado. it wont beat a charger consistently but does better than expected. because it has dogs it can cast to stop charges and stop them from getting away. and tele stomp a bowa with full dogs on her bow side and she's dead. dmg is lowish, but its not terribad.

i believe mine is still alive, ill check.

Quote (min_in_lld @ Jan 12 2024 12:05pm)

I had thought about a Max frw% 150+ lvl 7 Zeal Charges Shild + Blessed Aim Paladin

For duelling Amazones

But lvl 18 lol

Quote (RPG5621 @ Jan 12 2024 06:08pm)

i've made a 120frw?+ feral druid lv13 before for tomb runes (was probably my favorite char) used 10x 7frw/20ar/3 max gcs and wind of steel flail[/QUOTE

Quote (min_in_lld @ Jan 12 2024 12:05pm)

I had thought about a Max frw% 150+ lvl 7 Zeal Charges Shild + Blessed Aim Paladin

For duelling Amazones

But lvl 18 lol

Quote (RPG5621 @ Jan 12 2024 10:58am)

well "all" is not true... a lv

25 zon >
25 pally>



... imo ( i have not extensively tested it...)

but a level 25...

sorcs / nado druids / hdins* without just going pure charger with hammers? / frenzy barb? ( only melee i might say could be okay since vs lv 18 zons and pallys you would have no shield and would not have access to 3/3/20s yet)/ ss druids? / jav zons? ( psn / cs?) ... psn would be almost pointless with death set and not sure how cs would do... but if this was aloud bow side would be banned ( would be another set of javs and or tele staff)...

when duling a lv 18 pnb vs my lv 24 sorc trade off was he did easily double my dmg (first time a pnb lv 18 necro came off as super op to me... typically there in my shoes where its death by 100 cuts)

trap sins ... would be fun to see how ls does ( i think you can hit around 1-300 ls a hit )... but i feel like people would just make them ph sin's/ mb sins and ruin lv 18s :mellow:

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 12 2024 02:25pm)

i have built all on that list. but only at 24 not 25.

frenzy was ok i built with dub throw too, libby was OP af ofc, ss druid was ok but boring to play even with shockwave, cs zon wasnt great but ok, trapper is better as fire imo with MB, necro was good for sure just hard to pilot.