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Aug 17 2023 09:46pm
Thinking about upgrading my Ryzen 7 2700. (I'm new to PC building, go easy on me)

Bought a 3070 when they came out but I feel like im not getting very good fps. I have read lots of conflicting posts about CPU bottlenecking with this combination.
I have my 7 2700 overclocked to 4.0 GHz, liquid cooled and maintains good temps.

Usage is about 30% on CPU and 15% on GPU playing GTA5 on 1440. Getting about 40-60fps, some small instances of 70-80.

The 7 5800x has a great price right now that I'm considering upgrading to, shows base clock of 3.8GHz and 4.7 boost. Same amount of cores and threads as 7 2700.
Is clock speed the only real difference with these chips? Would going from 4.0 to 4.7 make much difference? The 3070 wasnt exactly cheap so I want to make sure I get my value out of it.

Full specs of my pc are:

ASrock b450 steel legend
Viper RAM - 32gb running at 2133MHz (advertised at 3200 but I believe my motherboard restricts this)
Gigabyte 3070 vision oc
Ryzen 7 2700 (overclocked to 4.0GHZ)
Corsair H100I Capellix liquid cooler
Corsair 650W gold power supply


Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!




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Aug 17 2023 11:38pm
cpu and gpu shouldnt be bottlenecked
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0Qg175/1/general-tasks/2560x1440/

both cpu and motherboard support up to 3200mhz ram
can overclock to 32000mhz
https://asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450%20Steel%20Legend/index.asp

not sure if this will fix your issue but u could try to overclock ur ram and or get faster ram.
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Aug 18 2023 12:02am
Quote (UsEr_SeLeCtEd @ Aug 18 2023 01:38am)


both cpu and motherboard support up to 3200mhz ram
can overclock to 32000mhz
https://asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450%20Steel%20Legend/index.asp

not sure if this will fix your issue but u could try to overclock ur ram and or get faster ram.


I did manage to get my ram to 2933 which appears to be the max for a 7 2700 cpu, and it actually did help a bit. Good to know there isn't much bottleneck, bit I'm still curious if the 7 5800x would be much improvement.
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Aug 18 2023 09:41am
Something doesn't seem right with the output.
Your GPU should be 90-100% usage, are drivers up to date?
Did you purchase the GPU new, along with the other components?
Your MOBO supports the DDR ram overclocking up to +3533, ensure you have enabled XMP profile within the Bios.
Although the CPU caps at +2933, this setting should still be enabled.

I can play 100+ frames max settings 1440p and I'm on a 3060/i7 9700k

I don't think you need an upgrade on the CPU personally, but if you were to upgrade I'd go with
5700x for -$50.00 less than the 5800x or go with the 5800x3d for +$100.00 over the 5800x
5700x near identical to 5800x (especially for gaming) and the 5800x3d is best in slot for your current AM4 platform

This post was edited by MadMardi on Aug 18 2023 09:42am
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Something doesn't seem right with the output.
Your GPU should be 90-100% usage, are drivers up to date? Yes
Did you purchase the GPU new, along with the other components? Every component new
Your MOBO supports the DDR ram overclocking up to +3533, ensure you have enabled XMP profile within the Bios. I did enable XMP, but wouldnt boot windows at 3200. 2933 seems to be stable.
Although the CPU caps at +2933, this setting should still be enabled.

I can play 100+ frames max settings 1440p and I'm on a 3060/i7 9700k

I don't think you need an upgrade on the CPU personally, but if you were to upgrade I'd go with
5700x for -$50.00 less than the 5800x or go with the 5800x3d for +$100.00 over the 5800x
5700x near identical to 5800x (especially for gaming) and the 5800x3d is best in slot for your current AM4 platform


Appreciate the advice!

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Aug 23 2023 10:51pm
Once you're around 4 ghz there really isn't a lot more to gain other then newer technologies incorporated on newer chips to be honest, otherwise $50 fx chips from AMD overclocked to several gigahertz would run the world.
I don't think your cpu is out of date enough and GTA5 is a GPU intensive game the "bottleneck" is usually video ram for this title. You shouldn't really be experiencing any bottleneck.

Clock speed really is the primary factor on cpus, although marketing would ask you to forget that fact since chips have been around 3 ghz for decades now. Newer chips have newer instruction sets but its not crazy enough a difference for you to upgrade imo.

GPUs have recently hit their price to performance mark where they too will level off for decades, less one could amass calculating power for pennies which poses several problems to energy regulation when you need very little to get very far.
the short and skinny of which means future GPUs will be very power hungry on purpose to regulate computational power accessible to any given entity when pooling the GPUs to calculate.
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