Here is more contradiction christan apologists ignore



This post was edited by addone on Jul 23 2026 10:46pm

So tell me addone, when did mammals became part of the classification system?

Adam and Eve didn't die even though god said they would. The serpent was correct god was impotent
So clearly god is either not all powerful or a liar or doesn't exist because its all made up.



Genesis 2:16-7
16And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”

Genesis 3:2-7
2The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’”
4“You will not surely die,” the serpent told the woman. 5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it. She also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate it.

7And the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; so they sewed together fig leaves and made coverings for themselves.

Also a bonus fairytale passage every christian ignores

Genesis 3:23-24
23Therefore the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24So He drove out the man and stationed cherubim on the east side of the Garden of Eden, along with a whirling sword of flame to guard the way to the tree of life.

You're not a bird expert, and I never claimed to be one either lol. I literally knew the name of the bird in a couple languages, knew what it looked like and it caught my attention that it was specifically named in a biblical list of birds thou shalt not eat. I'd rather learn and share a bit about a pretty bird than enter the debate in progress. How worked up do you need to be to have that kind of interpretation to some innocent bird facts

I thought my previous response was with addone and didn't realize it was with another individual. So my apologies there.

Explains why it confuses me having nothing to do with the original discussion I was having with addone.

How much research did you do with each verse posted here by another individual? Still taking material from other sources that include incorrect information.

The bible does not contradict itself. This will remain a matter of you having a direct misunderstanding of the bible.

1. "God is jealous" vs. "God is void of jealousy"

The chart uses an inaccurate, fabricated quote for Proverbs 6:34. Proverbs 6:34 does not say "God is void of jealousy". The actual text states: "For jealousy enrages a husband, and he will show no mercy when he takes revenge." It describes human envy/rage resulting from marital infidelity. Conversely, Exodus 20:5 uses "jealous" (qanna) in a righteous sense, meaning God demands exclusive covenant loyalty from His people, akin to a faithful spouse.

2. "God tempts men" vs. "God does not tempt men"

Equivocation on the definitions of the words "tempt" and "test". In Genesis 22:1, the original Hebrew word is nissah, which strictly means to test, prove, or refine character (as a teacher tests a student). James 1:13 uses the Greek word peirazo to mean enticing someone to commit evil. God tests faith, but He never tries to lure humans into sin.

3. "God is unchangeable" vs. "God changes his plans"

Confusing God's immutable character with His dynamic relationship with humans. Numbers 23:19 states that God's nature, promises, and ultimate purposes never alter. 1 Samuel 15:10–11 describes God's response to Saul's disobedience. When human behavior changes, God's relational positioning changes accordingly, which the text describes using an anthropomorphism (expressing divine grief or changing a planned course of action in human terms).

4. "Jesus is equal to the Father" vs. "The Father is greater than I."

Ignoring the distinction between Christ's divine nature and His earthly, human incarnation. Philippians 2:5–6 discusses Jesus' eternal, divine essence (morphē Theou). John 14:28 (mislabeled as 14:26 in the graphic) features Jesus speaking during His voluntary earthly humiliation and submission as a man. In essence, they are equal; in earthly function and role during the incarnation, the Father was greater.

5. "God judges" vs. "God does not judge"

Isolating a single verse from its broader textual purpose.The Context: John 5:22 and 5:27 affirm that Jesus possesses ultimate authority as the final Judge of humanity. In John 12:47, Jesus explains the primary objective of His First Coming—He did not come at that moment to condemn the world, but to offer salvation. The final judgment occurs at His Second Coming.

6. "There is no one that is sinless" vs. "Job was perfect and upright"

Misunderstanding the biblical definition of "perfect." Romans 3:10 establishes a universal absolute: no human is completely without a sinful nature. Job 1:1 uses the Hebrew word tam, which translates to blameless, mature, or possessing integrity, rather than sinless perfection. Job was a man of outstanding moral character, but he still needed a redeemer.

7. "We are justified by faith" vs. "We are justified by works"

Taking the word "justified" out of its intended framework. Paul (Romans 3:20) is explaining how a sinner achieves right standing before God (solely through faith in Christ). James (James 2:14) is explaining how a person proves their faith is genuine to other humans. True faith inevitably produces good works; they are the fruit, not the root, of salvation.

8. "The dead will be raised" vs. "The dead will not rise"

Forcing a narrative expression of grief to function as absolute theological doctrine. Isaiah 26:19 is a prophetic declaration concerning the future bodily resurrection. Job 14:12 features Job lamenting in the depths of suffering, describing the physical reality that from a human, earthly perspective, once a person dies, they do not simply wake up and return to normal earthly life.

9. "Once a person dies there is no return" vs. "Samuel returned"

Equivoking natural order with an unlawful, occult intervention.The Context: Luke 16:19–31 describes the standard, fixed boundary of the afterlife—people cannot naturally cross back over to warn the living. 1 Samuel 28 describes a forbidden, extraordinary event where a medium summons Samuel's spirit. The text notes that even the medium was terrified, indicating this was a shocking violation of the natural boundary allowed by God as a unique judgment against King Saul.

10. "The Christian will not sin" vs. "The Christian will sin"

Erasing the Greek verb tenses used in the original text. 1 John 1:10 uses a tense that refers to single acts of sin, warning that any believer who claims they never sin is lying. 1 John 5:18 uses the Greek present continuous tense (ouch hamartanei), which means to actively practice or persist in a lifestyle of unrepentant sin. A true believer will slip up, but they will not live a lifestyle dominated by continual, willful sin.

Well would you look at that, no contradictions. Just someone misrepresenting each chapter in these examples and you continue to copy and paste other individuals Facebook memes and pictures including inaccurate information and making the claim that they are true.

This thread is supposed to be you posting truthful and honest opinions and explaining your stance, but you still have yet to do this. You don't ask questions on any part of the bible you don't understand. You claim it is fake, but continue to use the bible in your posts. You can't say the gospel is fake and then misrepresent the Gospels contents, doesn't work that way.

Physical death and spiritual death are 2 different things. God did not mean they would physically die when they eat the apple, but again you are taking a verse out of context and have a direct misunderstanding of the gospel.

The gospel still remains true and you continue to prove that with each post.

You also ignored cpk, when did mammals became part of the classification system?

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Jul 24 2026 07:40am

Why do you assume its spiritual death and not physical death? If someone tells you will die after eating a piece of fruit do you assume it will be spiritual? Strange interpretation
We know what physical death is but wtf is a spiritual death? Sounds like a made up nonsense.

Is there any way to demonstrate spiritual death or know it beyond a theoretical concept.


The major problem here is you assume a certain worldview where things make sense but doesn't mean the worldview matches reality. For example in a video game logic if you need to heal just drink a potion and instantly restore health, or if you want to reach a certain platform just double jump. If you could do that in real life that would make sense but because you cannot prove we can double jump you cannot apply that logic to reality.

In fantasy resurrection makes sense, you can walk on water or multiply bread at a push of a button if magical powers existed. In real world you cannot do those things.
Therefore when you say its true it only applies to gospel, it doesn't apply to real life.

This isn't an assumption. This is an example of your misunderstanding of the Gospel.

Adam and Eve had the same beautiful gift as you, free will. You addone have a soul. You aren't this mindless object of just flesh and bone walking around with no purpose. You were created, by God, just like Adam and Eve. Jesus gave his life for you and through Jesus you will come to know the father.

You giving your life to God, having faith in him, and trusting his word and applying his truth to your life is the very spiritual death I'm referring to.

2 Corinthians 5:17: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Galatians 6:15: "For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation."

Ephesians 4:24: "...and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness."

In Christ: You are joined with Jesus by faith. Old Gone: Your past sins and old way of life are washed away. New Here: God gives you a fresh start and a new spiritual life.

How do you know this other than the bible telling you? I for instance see myself as physical being an obvious and testable agent. I do not see myself as having a soul its not obvious and I am not sure how you can even begin to demonstrate it.

I can understand soul/spirit as an abstract concept but how do you know we have a soul in reality? Do I have to brainwash myself to ignore reality and just imagine its real like you?

This post was edited by addone on Jul 24 2026 05:35pm