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Jul 22 2026 10:19pm
You've got to see the picture.

Adam fell by transgression, which brought sin & death into the world.
Jesus carried the whole weight of humanity to redeem us through His suffering, where His body was broken and His blood was poured out for You. And You. And You.

He died specifically so that you could live and receive everlasting life with Him in Heaven, forever. Living with Him forever, no death, no sin, no hell.
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Jul 23 2026 01:33am
You are still not comprehending.
Violent doesn't always describe something bad. The court itself enforces with violence. Only certain violent actions are deemed bad because they produce undesirable outcomes that are based on prefence of majority


Everything is relative and conditional. For example we prefer violence in a boxing match we dont prefer violence on beating up your wife. You are engaging in binary thinking
Specific enough for you?


Rape is not a preference issue, it is an evil violent crime.

It is labeled that way not because of preference.

Perhaps you should call all the court systems and tell them they shouldn't make claims anything is evil because you believe evil is a made up concept?
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Jul 23 2026 02:13am
Rape is not a preference issue, it is an evil violent crime.

It is labeled that way not because of preference.

Perhaps you should call all the court systems and tell them they shouldn't make claims anything is evil because you believe evil is a made up concept?


Wrong again... already explained why it is. Turn off binary thinking and you might be able to grasp this concept.
Also courts operate on evidence not on your made up version of evil which you also have a hard time understanding. Try producing evidence for resurrection in court see how far that gets you. Oh wait you can't ...


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=692179415
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=692185610







This post was edited by addone on Jul 23 2026 02:15am
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Jul 23 2026 06:22am
Thats why I said "obvious" (meaning apparent or self evident) not that its 100% certain or absolute truth. I am giving christians apologists an opportunity to produce evidence to support their claims and make it non obvious.
If there is a unicorn fossil they are welcome to submit it as evidence. Otherwise they cannot call bible as truth or their god real.

Through out this thread I have been posting different contradictions, scientific impossibilities that violate our current understanding and laws of physics that the bible claims as true. To reinforce my stance of why it is "obviously" fake.


I'm still waiting for you to explain what you mean by fake. What does it mean for Christianity to be fake?

"Christianity being fake means _____________"

Please fill in the blank.

This post was edited by x_h on Jul 23 2026 06:26am
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Jul 23 2026 06:32am





This is a strawman. Quite a ridiculous one at that.

You know that for the most part they aren't proud of ignoring evidence, they think they have evidence. You are intentionally misrepresenting their views to make them easier to attack.

Why not just contend with their actual positions rather than share these moronic memes?
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Jul 23 2026 06:50am
Wrong again... already explained why it is. Turn off binary thinking and you might be able to grasp this concept.
Also courts operate on evidence not on your made up version of evil which you also have a hard time understanding. Try producing evidence for resurrection in court see how far that gets you. Oh wait you can't ...


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=692179415
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=692185610

https://imgur.com/LzRFVYW.jpeg

https://imgur.com/wZVkzuZ.jpeg

https://imgur.com/SRA63gR.jpeg


Evidence of the crime, a crime that is labeled and considered evil by the courts. It is not a crime because of our society preferences it is a crime because of what it is and you refuse to call it what it is.

This has nothing to do with preference.

You are still tip toeing around this concept and it's very concerning why you avoid this subject.
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Jul 23 2026 06:56am
Wrong again... already explained why it is. Turn off binary thinking and you might be able to grasp this concept.
Also courts operate on evidence not on your made up version of evil which you also have a hard time understanding. Try producing evidence for resurrection in court see how far that gets you. Oh wait you can't ...


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=692179415
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=692185610

https://imgur.com/LzRFVYW.jpeg

https://imgur.com/wZVkzuZ.jpeg

https://imgur.com/SRA63gR.jpeg


Also again we have historical evidence of Jesus's existence and his death. You continue to deny that existence. This isn't you just denying the ressurection.

We've seen death come back to life in many cases in our modern age and you seem to ignore the possibility of this happening.

You can absolutely take the stance that he isn't the son of God (which is what most take the stance of because we have plenty of accounts verifying the existence of Jesus and they don't deny this man existed in history), but you can't deny his existence.

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Jul 23 2026 10:59am
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not claiming there is or isn't a god, so there is no burden on me.

*edit* I just realized that addone created this thread, so yes, the burden is on him because he claimed Christianity is fake, which I would never do.

The position that Christianity can be proven false or true is an intractable one, in my opinion.


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Jul 23 2026 11:14am
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not claiming there is or isn't a god, so there is no burden on me.

*edit* I just realized that addone created this thread, so yes, the burden is on him because he claimed Christianity is fake, which I would never do.

The position that Christianity can be proven false or true is an intractable one, in my opinion.


it's 100% possible to prove true or false, you just can't tell anyone. you simply have to die and then you'll know.

some people have died, and claim it is real, but evidence is mixed of course. Some muslims get revived and say Islam is real, some die and see just a bright light, some die and say they see hell, etc.
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Jul 23 2026 01:58pm
it's 100% possible to prove true or false, you just can't tell anyone. you simply have to die and then you'll know.

some people have died, and claim it is real, but evidence is mixed of course. Some muslims get revived and say Islam is real, some die and see just a bright light, some die and say they see hell, etc.


Dead to sin, alive in christ, a new creation.

The old man left behind, the new man walking with the lord.

You only mention the physical death in your example, but spiritually the complete ending of your old, independent life so that Christ can live His life through you. You cannot experience the resurrection of the new self without first experiencing the execution of the old self.
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