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Jul 16 2026 05:02am
With the updated build, are we just mana potting? Since merc has infinity and we have obsession. What sacrifices have to be made in order to get an insight in somewhere? Im considering buying the gear for the build to try it out, but mana potting would be a huge put off to me.


The idea of the obsession build in case you missed it is to just get teleport to a high enough level the mana cost is low enough you can infinite teleport without insight. Since obsession can be made in a +3 teleport war staff, which gives +7 teleport overall (it works). Hence also trying to use +all skills on shako / maras, or coven / maras / sojs, etc. Getting your max mana high enough you offset your mana usage in teleport just from base regen + magefists / other small %regen sources
I find that it only takes around 900-1000 max mana and you've reached essentially infinite even if it still drains slightly per cast, since you walk / pick up items / click on shrines / exits a bit and recover rapidly.

So a setup like shako / maras / rare fcr / sling wants some +mana on that ring and maybe even some +mana charms. I used 5x +mana scs on ladder and it did just fine
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Jul 16 2026 06:42am
The idea of the obsession build in case you missed it is to just get teleport to a high enough level the mana cost is low enough you can infinite teleport without insight. Since obsession can be made in a +3 teleport war staff, which gives +7 teleport overall (it works). Hence also trying to use +all skills on shako / maras, or coven / maras / sojs, etc. Getting your max mana high enough you offset your mana usage in teleport just from base regen + magefists / other small %regen sources
I find that it only takes around 900-1000 max mana and you've reached essentially infinite even if it still drains slightly per cast, since you walk / pick up items / click on shrines / exits a bit and recover rapidly.

So a setup like shako / maras / rare fcr / sling wants some +mana on that ring and maybe even some +mana charms. I used 5x +mana scs on ladder and it did just fine


What would you consider kinda the low end of the build gear wise? Something where I can test it out and see if investing is worth it for me vs investing into another build. While also considering the QOL to me of not having to pot a lot is important to me. Im willing to buy a setup, just concerned with dumping a ton into it yet before I see how it compares. If you have a d2planner of it, I can try it offline and that would be very nice.
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Jul 16 2026 08:39pm
Use a 3 tele insight staff and aim for 75fcr, that’ll give you a good idea if you like it or not. I maxed out the build and personally didn’t like the playstyle and find that it suffers on fire immunes especially in a tz full clear use case.
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Jul 17 2026 03:13pm
What would you consider kinda the low end of the build gear wise? Something where I can test it out and see if investing is worth it for me vs investing into another build. While also considering the QOL to me of not having to pot a lot is important to me. Im willing to buy a setup, just concerned with dumping a ton into it yet before I see how it compares. If you have a d2planner of it, I can try it offline and that would be very nice.


On a new ladder you can get away with using some real trash gear to level up like tele staff, authority, leaf->ondals, rando tome -> measured wrath, lore->+3 circlet, any ammy -> +3 ammy, magefist. And getting arachs/sojs is a bigger investment early on. But the obvious hurdles are enigma -> infinity and to a lesser extent CTA. That's the bare minimum runeword to reach the functional state where you sweep TZ quickly. And frankly, once you do have enigma+infinity+cta, everything else has very minor benefit and can be done cheaply with no real difference in payoff. You can use plain skillers, low roll boots, plain +3 ammy/circlet, low roll mang songs. Optimizing around obsession was just a way to improve the QoL in a decked out build, I went up to level 98 with a 75 fcr insight staff setup and had no troubles

If you aren't going to be able to get an enigma in a reasonable time, sorc is always going to be better than any other build, that's just a fact of D2
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Jul 17 2026 04:44pm
Highest summon tainted possible level: 65

With sunder 64

Most damage 63 mang song


https://imgur.com/a/Lx4SIsS

This post was edited by fuzzy0681 on Jul 17 2026 04:51pm
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On a new ladder you can get away with using some real trash gear to level up like tele staff, authority, leaf->ondals, rando tome -> measured wrath, lore->+3 circlet, any ammy -> +3 ammy, magefist. And getting arachs/sojs is a bigger investment early on. But the obvious hurdles are enigma -> infinity and to a lesser extent CTA. That's the bare minimum runeword to reach the functional state where you sweep TZ quickly. And frankly, once you do have enigma+infinity+cta, everything else has very minor benefit and can be done cheaply with no real difference in payoff. You can use plain skillers, low roll boots, plain +3 ammy/circlet, low roll mang songs. Optimizing around obsession was just a way to improve the QoL in a decked out build, I went up to level 98 with a 75 fcr insight staff setup and had no troubles

If you aren't going to be able to get an enigma in a reasonable time, sorc is always going to be better than any other build, that's just a fact of D2


Thanks for the write. I need to look through and read all the posts. I need to see what the best demon is now as im still fresh back and not familiar with the process of even acquiring the demon so ill have to find out and educate myself. My main concern with the build is fire immune monsters and its clear speed dealing with those.
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Jul 17 2026 04:57pm
- Constant mana potting
- really does quite terrible in chaos sanc
- probably has low MF and low Goldfind



i think an abyss lock with 11k damage 280 mf > this by quite a bit
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Jul 17 2026 05:01pm
- Constant mana potting
- really does quite terrible in chaos sanc
- probably has low MF and low Goldfind



i think an abyss lock with 11k damage 280 mf > this by quite a bit


2 alternatives
Bowlock hex bane with elaborate tedious prebuff
Full demon 2 defiled
Full abyss Full bind demon
Fire lock

Ok 5x alternatives
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Jul 17 2026 05:55pm
Highest summon tainted possible level: 65
With sunder 64
Most damage 63 mang song
https://imgur.com/a/Lx4SIsS


The most practical BiS for players prebuffing is mang song, enigma, +3 circlet, +3 ammy, +2/3 tome, magefist, 2x soj, arach, wraithstep, 8x skiller, sunder, torch, anni, cta buff for level 56 tainted / 52 mastery
the most possible +skills would be a +6 tome, +6 dagger, 9x skillers, skill shrine and consume hephasto, which is of course both less damage than mang song and totally impractical, but gets you 65 tainted / 58 mastery

- Constant mana potting
- really does quite terrible in chaos sanc
- probably has low MF and low Goldfind
i think an abyss lock with 11k damage 280 mf > this by quite a bit


Properly built this has no mana usage at all and 300%+ mf. You can't even use mana unless you spam blood boil without hitting anything. Teleport costs no net mana over regen, and blood boil gives you excess mana from hex siphon
It does better in chaos than pretty much any build short of java or mosaic. Your blood boil spam is faster than a nova sorc in chaos, but why bother with chaos when other TZ areas are faster and more rewarding


If you think an abyss lock matches up to it, does that mean I have to make a new version of this video, with abyss lock in the top?
I think it would be about half the speed of a demon lock in p8 tz

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Jul 17 2026 06:46pm
- Constant mana potting
- really does quite terrible in chaos sanc
- probably has low MF and low Goldfind



i think an abyss lock with 11k damage 280 mf > this by quite a bit


wrong on all 3 fronts. Abyss lock doesn't come close to this. This is the premier warlock MF build.
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