nah... dont think it was.

anyway hoto #1 bis for hdin.

plenty of people did the math. allskill/pallyskill>EDR/MSD

/edit sunder is hardly worth it, just let your merc deal with the couple immune. trech insight cure/tal mask goes a long way
/edit 2 if your having trouble affording merc, just pick up a few armors and sell them yw

This post was edited by Q3W on Jul 13 2026 01:42pm

op, look into the sling ring too...




show your math or link the build. wont take you seriously until you do.. iirc, the top dps build atm uses void/hellwardens/gheeds/hoz...

and not running a magic sunder is just dumb. lol

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 13 2026 01:54pm

lmao sais the botter

right, one of those trust me bro builds? ive never botted and you saying so only gives me more reason to ignore you completely lol

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 13 2026 01:58pm

like i said man, im waiting for someone to say "i hit 24k" till then, hoto bros> void

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/3rc3470t

22.7 vs baal

quick toss together and got 27k... and i left open spots in inventory so we are comparing builds with the same number of pcombs.


your numbers were
23,747-23,911
59,573 dps

ss treks? no max block? 10 points into defiance? your build is all over the place dude, lol

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 13 2026 02:52pm

this is similar to the last build i had before d2:r release.

thanks for the update on the other items. i'm loving all this new stuff

ya, hdin got some sweet upgrades. and they are "good" upgrades since you still need to manage your fcr breakpoint accordingly given a few extra choices.

even though it does a little less dmg, for pvm, i still prefer shako over hellwardens.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 13 2026 02:46pm

it only really matters if you're doing PVP, even in 96TZ with a budget 10k hdin with 125fcr is absurdly easy/quick. Hoto costs peanuts, I'll even give you a non-ladder expansion one if you need it.

i also just realized my test build didnt even hit 125fcr, which would increase the dps number.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jul 13 2026 03:03pm