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Jul 12 2026 06:24pm
"real world evidence" presupposes the possibility of intelligibility, which is exactly what is in question. there is no "neutral worldview" so when I show the impossibility of the contradictory, it is actually rigorous proof in a disjunction argument


Found this gem in google

"Immunization from Falsification: By asserting that any evidence against Christianity must be interpreted through Christian presuppositions to be intelligible, the worldview becomes unfalsifiable. Any counter-argument is dismissed as "borrowing" from the Christian view, which critics see as a rhetorical shield rather than a logical proof. "

The meme keeps on giving.

Inb4 butthurt chatgpt remarks.
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Found this gem in google

"Immunization from Falsification: By asserting that any evidence against Christianity must be interpreted through Christian presuppositions to be intelligible, the worldview becomes unfalsifiable. Any counter-argument is dismissed as "borrowing" from the Christian view, which critics see as a rhetorical shield rather than a logical proof. "

The meme keeps on giving.

Inb4 butthurt chatgpt remarks.


every time i say "butthurt" i get a suspension
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every time i say "butthurt" i get a suspension


I wouldn't care if you told my mother to die. Insults don't hurt me I believe in absolute free speech Tistuff so you can rest assured it wasn't me who reported you.
The only time I would consider reporting someone is for obnoxious spam or something disruptive to the site itself like malware or phishing links etc.

Its petty and cowardly to report people for language.
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I wouldn't care if you told my mother to die. Insults don't hurt me I believe in absolute free speech Tistuff so you can rest assured it wasn't me who reported you.
The only time I would consider reporting someone is for obnoxious spam or something disruptive to the site itself like malware or phishing links etc.

Its petty and cowardly to report people for language.


i would never say that
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Jul 12 2026 06:55pm
Found this gem in google

"Immunization from Falsification: By asserting that any evidence against Christianity must be interpreted through Christian presuppositions to be intelligible, the worldview becomes unfalsifiable. Any counter-argument is dismissed as "borrowing" from the Christian view, which critics see as a rhetorical shield rather than a logical proof. "

The meme keeps on giving.

Inb4 butthurt chatgpt remarks.


I never said use my presuppositions, when I ask for your own worldview I am asking for you to justify your presuppositions.
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Jul 12 2026 09:29pm
Again with the assumptions.
This was a simple test to see how you process information and you clearly failed terribly. This is a non interactive claim thats all the information you receive just like the claim from the bible. You cannot call up Peter or Tacitus or Jesus and ask them to give you any additional information like you are attempting here lol.

Curious if you find my story not credible then why do you find much much crazier story believable?
Like why aren't you calling up jesus to tell him that he suffered from severe heatstroke for thinking he resurrected people from the dead and walked on water? When there is no proof of even ONE resurrected a person from Antarctica before. Why aren't you telling christians and other theists to get their heads examined for believing fairytales.
Why don't you administer yourself to a psyche ward for thinking that a sky wizard magically gathered all the animal species on a boat then drowned the entire planet?

Also beliefs do not create facts so no matter how hard you believe something even to the point of dying the beliefs are subjective psychological state they are not objective truths. All you are doing is proving how fanatical you are. Religious fanatics have died by the millions if not billions from just about every religion. Does that validate them true? No ofc not stupid argument.


You want to narrow down my options to ABCD? Allow me to explain the thought process.

Let's first examine you and the times you post. You have always posted early in the Morning, lunchtime or late at night my time. You have never, ever posted between 10pm and 6am my time. That means we are awake and asleep roughly the same time, give or take a few hours. Hippos are generally found in the African region. Now you would not be posting from Africa at the times you currently do. So with this in mind my first action is to do a quick check if there are any regions nearby that could have Hippos but they are pretty much only found in Africa. Then I call you out on the lie right then and there. That is the first step.

The second step is when you decided to double down which is very action oriented. Let's say for argument sake that, despite all the odds, you actually did in fact see a talking Hippo an the way to the supermarket and you were telling the truth. Your reaction and response here does not match what any sane person would do. You see a wild Hippo would be considered a danger to civilization and so you would not hesitate to call the authorities and let them deal with it.

However, if you were lying then you would stop just short of calling the authorities, knowing you would receive a large fine for wasting the resources and times of the emergency services. I would also hear about this Hippo on the news. Then again, you never made that call as your behaviour didn't match what you claimed to see. You were not prepared to take the lie that far.

See how the logic works?
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Jul 13 2026 12:10am
You want to narrow down my options to ABCD? Allow me to explain the thought process.

Let's first examine you and the times you post. You have always posted early in the Morning, lunchtime or late at night my time. You have never, ever posted between 10pm and 6am my time. That means we are awake and asleep roughly the same time, give or take a few hours. Hippos are generally found in the African region. Now you would not be posting from Africa at the times you currently do. So with this in mind my first action is to do a quick check if there are any regions nearby that could have Hippos but they are pretty much only found in Africa. Then I call you out on the lie right then and there. That is the first step.

The second step is when you decided to double down which is very action oriented. Let's say for argument sake that, despite all the odds, you actually did in fact see a talking Hippo an the way to the supermarket and you were telling the truth. Your reaction and response here does not match what any sane person would do. You see a wild Hippo would be considered a danger to civilization and so you would not hesitate to call the authorities and let them deal with it.

However, if you were lying then you would stop just short of calling the authorities, knowing you would receive a large fine for wasting the resources and times of the emergency services. I would also hear about this Hippo on the news. Then again, you never made that call as your behaviour didn't match what you claimed to see. You were not prepared to take the lie that far.

See how the logic works?


You aggressively missing the point. The country or what time this was posted has no bearing on the story. Do the authors of the bible give timestamps on what time of day they wrote their testimonies? Do you understand that when the story happened is not the same time it was written smh... this story could of happened 10 years ago and written recently in the middle of the night. You are making terrible assumptions.

Also I described to you a "magical" hippo not an regular one you see at the zoo :bonk: you are assuming there needs to be regular hippos in order for a magical one to be real.

I never mentioned my reaction or if I reported it to the authorities. You assumed I didn't.


Look this is a very simple exercise the bible tells you there was a talking snake yet I don't see you questioning jesus in an interrogation room to give you details like you are attempting with my story.

Its clear to me you have a very strong confirmation bias to a particular story and you are applying a very different standard of verification to my evidence. Bible talking snakes, unicorns, summoning 2 bears, dragons, cherubim, leviathan, raising people from the dead perfectly normal nothing to see here.
When I present my story you are accusing me of hallucinations, raise unreasonable objections, making wild assumptions/strawmans so that you can refute it easier.

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You aggressively missing the point. The country or what time this was posted has no bearing on the story. Do the authors of the bible give timestamps on what time of day they wrote their testimonies? Do you understand that when the story happened is not the same time it was written smh... this story could of happened 10 years ago and written recently in the middle of the night. You are making terrible assumptions.

Also I described to you a "magical" hippo not an regular one you see at the zoo :bonk: you are assuming there needs to be regular hippos in order for a magical one to be real.

I never mentioned my reaction or if I reported it to the authorities. You assumed I didn't.


Look this is a very simple exercise the bible tells you there was a talking snake yet I don't see you questioning jesus in an interrogation room to give you details like you are attempting with my story.

Its clear to me you have a very strong confirmation bias to a particular story and you are applying a very different standard of verification to my evidence. Bible talking snakes, unicorns, summoning 2 bears, dragons, cherubim, leviathan, raising people from the dead perfectly normal nothing to see here.
When I present my story you are accusing me of hallucinations, raise unreasonable objections, making wild assumptions/strawmans so that you can refute it easier.


i dont make the definitions. i also dont ignore them for cognitive bias.
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A cognitive bias is a systematic pattern of deviation from norm or rationality in judgment. Individuals create their own "subjective reality" from their perception of the input. An individual's construction of reality, not the objective input, may dictate their behavior in the world. Thus, cognitive biases may sometimes lead to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgment, illogical interpretation, and irrationality.


you have been corrected ad nauseam
'atheists and their stubborn refusal to accept anything now matter how obvious it has been laid out for them, just more verification of scripture

snake
[sneɪk]

noun

verb
snake (noun)
snakes (plural noun)
snake in the grass (noun)
snakes in the grass (plural noun)
the snake (noun)
plumber's snake (noun)
plumber's snakes (plural noun)
a long limbless reptile which has no eyelids, a short tail, and jaws that are capable of considerable extension. Some snakes have a venomous bite.
Similar:
serpent
ophidian
Joe Blake
(in general use) a limbless lizard or amphibian.
derogatory
a treacherous or deceitful person:
"that man is a cold-blooded snake"

Why Does the Bible Mention Unicorns?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BNsjsbJLaM


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i dont make the definitions. i also dont ignore them for cognitive bias.


you have been corrected ad nauseam
'atheists and their stubborn refusal to accept anything now matter how obvious it has been laid out for them, just more verification of scripture

snake
[sneɪk]

noun

verb
snake (noun)
snakes (plural noun)
snake in the grass (noun)
snakes in the grass (plural noun)
the snake (noun)
plumber's snake (noun)
plumber's snakes (plural noun)
a long limbless reptile which has no eyelids, a short tail, and jaws that are capable of considerable extension. Some snakes have a venomous bite.
Similar:
serpent
ophidian
Joe Blake
(in general use) a limbless lizard or amphibian.
derogatory
a treacherous or deceitful person:
"that man is a cold-blooded snake"

Why Does the Bible Mention Unicorns?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BNsjsbJLaM


That conversation wasn't with you so not sure why you are pretending to be someone else. Unless that is your multi account?

It's actually a serpent not a snake if you want to get technical here. The bible explicitly identifies the serpent as one of the "beast of the field"
Its old hebrew not whatever you like to cherrypick from modern english.

Not only that but the bible gives you context how the serpent was made to crawl on his belly. Thats what snakes do not people lol.

Your attempt to dismiss this simply as deceitful person doesn't work. I already schooled you on this several times. Some people never lear.
But you are not here to learn anything are you TiStuff? You are here to twist words and misinterpret my arguments in order to prop up your beliefs no matter the cost. You will lie if you have to anything but to admit christianity is fake.
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That conversation wasn't with you so not sure why you are pretending to be someone else. Unless that is your multi account?

It's actually a serpent not a snake if you want to get technical here. The bible explicitly identifies the serpent as one of the "beast of the field"
Its old hebrew not whatever you like to cherrypick from modern english.

Not only that but the bible gives you context how the serpent was made to crawl on his belly. Thats what snakes do not people lol.

Your attempt to dismiss this simply as deceitful person doesn't work. I already schooled you on this several times. Some people never lear.
But you are not here to learn anything are you TiStuff? You are here to twist words and misinterpret my arguments in order to prop up your beliefs no matter the cost. You will lie if you have to anything but to admit christianity is fake.


because you keep being pig headed about it

ok have it your way........... "serpant"
ser·pent
[ˈsəːp(ə)nt]

noun
serpent (noun)
serpents (plural noun)
Serpent (noun)
the Serpent (noun)

literary
a large snake:
"the logo features two intertwined serpents"
(the Serpent)
a biblical name for Satan (see Genesis 3, Revelation 20).
a dragon or other mythical snake-like reptile:
"fire-breathing, flying serpents"
derogatory
a sly or treacherous person, especially one who exploits a position of trust in order to betray it.


snakes/serpents used to have legs. you heard it in the bible first before it was found in the fossil record
things just keep getting worse for the 'atheist
national geographic snakes had legs


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The bible explicitly identifies the serpent as one of the "beast of the field"

cite the full scripture

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Its old hebrew not whatever you like to cherrypick from modern english

what you do when you insist unicorn means magical horsey

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Your attempt to dismiss this simply as deceitful person doesn't work

its still in the definition........

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I already schooled you on this several times.

you just ignored and complained a lot.

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Some people never lear.

a quality lear(ing) ?

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But you are not here to learn anything are you addone? You are here to twist words and misinterpret arguments in order to prop up your beliefs no matter the cost. You will lie if you have to anything but to admit addone is fake.

fify


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