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Jul 9 2026 01:46am
It was an attack on the aid worker that volounteered to give children in a war zone a bit of hapiness and hope because that was who israel killed. Hardly matters what you intend when the end result is murder which is always the case with israel.


He wasn’t the target.

The kids in the Nova festival were the target he wasn’t

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Jul 9 2026 02:44am
He wasn’t the target.

The kids in the Nova festival were the target he wasn’t


So were the children murdered by israeli snipers when they used them for target practice.
So were the hospitals that got double tagged
So were the paramedics driving ambulances, with lights on, when they were ambushed and israel then tried to burry the evidence.
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Jul 9 2026 03:33am
So were the children murdered by israeli snipers when they used them for target practice.
So were the hospitals that got double tagged
So were the paramedics driving ambulances, with lights on, when they were ambushed and israel then tried to burry the evidence.


What he is saying is:

The Children, Hospitals, Paramedics etc are all not targetted. They are simply not factored. So if the mission is to kill a terrorist, and if it is known or suspected where the terrorist is, the terrorist is targetted, and it is not relevant if he is in a bus full of school children, or in a hospital or in an ambulance. Anyone that dies in the bus, the hospital or in an ambulance, whether the terrorist was there or not, well, that is just too bad, but the mission trumps any notion of victimhood. It is not even called collateral damage, on the understanding that Israel does not believe that there are any innocents in Gaza.

Also your statement is problematic. You failed to mention that as part of the Israeli strike that an 8 year old and a 10 year old were also killed. Also, related to the Ambulances event which occurred, Israel did not in fact try to bury the evidence, they DID bury the evidence using heavy machinery to do so. It took two weeks for people to understand what happened. i.e. Convoy of ambulances and fire trucks, detained, bound and executed, vehicles buried in mass grave, video evidence and testimonies contradicted IDF statements and ultimately Israel stopped talking about this incident. So to reiterate: Israel did not TRY to bury anything, they DID, both physically and then later, metaphorically bury it. TLDR: If everyone is a potential militant, then no one is a civilian, ergo, nothing to be investigated. It is Faith - Faith in what they are doing, impervious to critic's, no need to answer questions, no self doubt.



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So were the children murdered by israeli snipers when they used them for target practice.
So were the hospitals that got double tagged
So were the paramedics driving ambulances, with lights on, when they were ambushed and israel then tried to burry the evidence.


What he is saying is:

The Children, Hospitals, Paramedics etc are all not targetted. They are simply not factored. So if the mission is to kill a terrorist, and if it is known or suspected where the terrorist is, the terrorist is targetted, and it is not relevant if he is in a bus full of school children, or in a hospital or in an ambulance. Anyone that dies in the bus, the hospital or in an ambulance, whether the terrorist was there or not, well, that is just too bad, but the mission trumps any notion of victimhood. It is not even called collateral damage, on the understanding that Israel does not believe that there are any innocents in Gaza.

Also your statement is problematic. You failed to mention that as part of the Israeli strike that an 8 year old and a 10 year old were also killed. Also, related to the Ambulances event which occurred, Israel did not in fact try to bury the evidence, they DID bury the evidence using heavy machinery to do so. It took two weeks for people to understand what happened. i.e. Convoy of ambulances and fire trucks, detained, bound and executed, vehicles buried in mass grave, video evidence and testimonies contradicted IDF statements and ultimately Israel stopped talking about this incident. So to reiterate: Israel did not TRY to bury anything, they DID, both physically and then later, metaphorically bury it. TLDR: If everyone is a potential militant, then no one is a civilian, ergo, nothing to be investigated. It is Faith - Faith in what they are doing, impervious to critic's, no need to answer questions, no self doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VbLeJfnow


your entire response relies on a fictional moral framework that doesn't exist in reality, topped off with a complete conspiracy theory about a 'buried ambulance convoy' that you literally just fabricated. Let's break down the facts:
1. The Factoring of Civilian Life: Proportionality
Your claim that civilians are 'simply not factored' or that Israel believes 'there are no innocents in Gaza' is demonstrably false. Under international humanitarian law, every single military strike goes through a strict proportionality assessment.
If a high-ranking terrorist commander is inside a building, the military calculates the expected civilian collateral damage. If that civilian risk is deemed excessive compared to the military advantage, the strike is aborted. Israel routinely aborts strikes, delays missions, and uses non-explosive kinetic warning measures ('roof knocking') specifically because civilians are factored.
If Israel truly operated under the doctrine that 'the mission trumps any notion of victimhood' and that 'no one is a civilian,' this war would have ended in three days with millions dead. Instead, the IDF operates in the most densely populated, booby-trapped urban environment in military history, achieving a civilian-to-combatant casualty ratio that is historically low for modern urban warfare.
2. The Strike on Al-Wahidi
Regarding the strike that killed Mohamed Fawaz al-Wahidi: yes, tragically, two children (ages 8 and 10) who were passing by were killed, along with Al-Wahidi.
I didn't 'fail to mention' it to hide it; it was right there in the news text posted in the thread. It is a heartbreaking tragedy. But your narrative tries to claim Israel targeted the car knowing or wanting to kill bystanders. The reality is that the IDF targeted a specific vehicle tracking a active Hamas operative.
When a terrorist group chooses to ride in civilian taxis or embed themselves among a civilian population, they are the ones who bear the moral guilt for the collateral damage. Under international law, the presence of civilians does not grant a combatant immunity from attack; rather, the combatant placing civilians in danger is committing the war crime.
3. The 'Buried Ambulance Convoy' Hoax
Your claim that the IDF 'detained, bound, executed, and physically buried an entire convoy of ambulances and fire trucks with heavy machinery' is a completely unhinged conspiracy theory.
Think about the sheer scale of what you are claiming. A convoy of ambulances and fire trucks disappearing into a mass grave dug by heavy machinery? No international media outlet, no reputable human rights organization, and not even the UN has ever reported or verified such an absurd event. You are literally inventing horror stories out of thin air to justify your hatred.
The Real TL;DR:
You need to believe that Israel is an unthinking, unfeeling machine impervious to critique because it shields you from having to look at the side you are defending.
Israelis don't have 'blind faith.' We live in a raucous, hyper-critical democracy where the military is subjected to constant judicial review, independent investigations, and relentless domestic press coverage. The side operating on blind, uncritical faith is the one that swallows unverified alternative media clips, invents stories about buried ambulance convoys, and completely absolves a genocidal terrorist group of its explicit policy of using its own children as shields.
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Jul 9 2026 06:19am
Such a strange feeling- it's like I didn't even write the above, and yet I'm the one feeling embarrassed.
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Jul 9 2026 06:37am
your entire response relies on a fictional moral framework that doesn't exist in reality, topped off with a complete conspiracy theory about a 'buried ambulance convoy' that you literally just fabricated. Let's break down the facts:
1. The Factoring of Civilian Life: Proportionality
Your claim that civilians are 'simply not factored' or that Israel believes 'there are no innocents in Gaza' is demonstrably false. Under international humanitarian law, every single military strike goes through a strict proportionality assessment.
If a high-ranking terrorist commander is inside a building, the military calculates the expected civilian collateral damage. If that civilian risk is deemed excessive compared to the military advantage, the strike is aborted. Israel routinely aborts strikes, delays missions, and uses non-explosive kinetic warning measures ('roof knocking') specifically because civilians are factored.
If Israel truly operated under the doctrine that 'the mission trumps any notion of victimhood' and that 'no one is a civilian,' this war would have ended in three days with millions dead. Instead, the IDF operates in the most densely populated, booby-trapped urban environment in military history, achieving a civilian-to-combatant casualty ratio that is historically low for modern urban warfare.
2. The Strike on Al-Wahidi
Regarding the strike that killed Mohamed Fawaz al-Wahidi: yes, tragically, two children (ages 8 and 10) who were passing by were killed, along with Al-Wahidi.
I didn't 'fail to mention' it to hide it; it was right there in the news text posted in the thread. It is a heartbreaking tragedy. But your narrative tries to claim Israel targeted the car knowing or wanting to kill bystanders. The reality is that the IDF targeted a specific vehicle tracking a active Hamas operative.
When a terrorist group chooses to ride in civilian taxis or embed themselves among a civilian population, they are the ones who bear the moral guilt for the collateral damage. Under international law, the presence of civilians does not grant a combatant immunity from attack; rather, the combatant placing civilians in danger is committing the war crime.
3. The 'Buried Ambulance Convoy' Hoax
Your claim that the IDF 'detained, bound, executed, and physically buried an entire convoy of ambulances and fire trucks with heavy machinery' is a completely unhinged conspiracy theory.
Think about the sheer scale of what you are claiming. A convoy of ambulances and fire trucks disappearing into a mass grave dug by heavy machinery? No international media outlet, no reputable human rights organization, and not even the UN has ever reported or verified such an absurd event. You are literally inventing horror stories out of thin air to justify your hatred.
The Real TL;DR:
You need to believe that Israel is an unthinking, unfeeling machine impervious to critique because it shields you from having to look at the side you are defending.
Israelis don't have 'blind faith.' We live in a raucous, hyper-critical democracy where the military is subjected to constant judicial review, independent investigations, and relentless domestic press coverage. The side operating on blind, uncritical faith is the one that swallows unverified alternative media clips, invents stories about buried ambulance convoys, and completely absolves a genocidal terrorist group of its explicit policy of using its own children as shields.


1) yes. because israeli officials, leading members of their military and their own prime minister, minister of defence amongst others clearly said so. That they are animals, that amalak should be invoked, that for every israeli 50 palestinians should die, that not a drop of water, electricity or food would reach them. All documented. All infront of the world stage. And we are seeing the results of same.
2) my claim, if there is any claim here, is that israel kills indiscriminatorily and without conseuqnce anyone they see fit and they use bullshit excuses to justify their barbarity. Like you do. You might write its tragic that 2 kids got blown to pieces but here you are sitting defending their pointless deaths because some taxi-driver (who we must assume was unarmed and doing civilian matters) was driving around someone trying to go a good thing.
3) It's not a hoax.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0xp969n69o
I don't claim it happened with a bunch of random internet people your own IDF does. They changed their story and admitted to the killings saying the burried the ambulances to "clear the road". They also said they will investigate it. We all know what that means it means it will join the ambulances and scores of war crimes deeply burried next to all the children.
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