Magic is fiction always has been. Even if you start with a neutral premise of "we don't know if magic is real or not" it makes no difference. Because you still have to prove that its real.
Conclusion is reached AFTER it has been proven or not proven.
I've already covered the part about presentation and why it doesn't matter. I can present truth as fiction and fiction as truth. All you are doing is dismissing/accepting it at the surface level, how are you not getting this? If I give you a real $100 bill and tell you its monopoly money does it mean its worthless? All you are proving how guillable you are.
You dont know if Harry Potter is false until you prove its falsenot because what's written on a cover. Just like you don't know if the bible is true despite what your pastor tells you. You have to consider the possibility the author was mistaken or lying. You have to examine and test that shit under a microscope. Now it could very well be that Harry Potter does in fact end up being fiction as the cover said but you won't know that until rigorous testing and abundant proof is presented.
Not repeating it again I made my point as simple as I can.
Your other statements don't make sense because if you don't have proof then you have no business to talk about it being true. Just like if you don't have tickets to a basketball game the security won't allow you to enter.
Bible makes extraordinary claims. If you made extraordinary claims that you could shoot a basketball from anywhere on court with your eyes closed and that you are a star player due to play in that game and you showed up like a homeless person. What do you think security do?
Lets say you have the most understanding and respectful security guard they are willing to hear you out despite your appearance and outlandish claims. They ask you do you have proof and you say no. I have testimonials from 2000 years ago does that count?
This is what you are bringing to the table.
have you proved harry potter is false? tell us about it
you like to declare things as "magic"
“any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” (Arthur C. Clarke’s Third Law)
which would include God or you are declaring your own godhood
if addone doesnt understand something that means its scoffed at as "magic" because its impossible there is anything ever ever that addone couldnt understand
This post was edited by TiStuff on Jul 8 2026 01:40am