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PVP - res is usually better

PVM can go with + cold dmg


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Do I understand correctly that -res on items like runeword "Doom" or facets applies directly to targets without 1/5 penalty unlike cold mastery?
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Jul 8 2026 11:30am
Mostly PVM
Do I still want to use infinity on merc though?
As it seems that cold mastery doesn't affect broken immunity.


Don’t use infinity. Always use insight since blizz is a mana hog. My blizz sorc hits around 15.5k blizz dmg and melts everything P8 with an insight merc.

I’ve also found that if you use a fathom, -res sunder is more beneficial
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Don’t use infinity. Always use insight since blizz is a mana hog. My blizz sorc hits around 15.5k blizz dmg and melts everything P8 with an insight merc.

I’ve also found that if you use a fathom, -res sunder is more beneficial


Thanks. So what is your setup then?
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Cold sorc I think it’s better to max cold dmg and skip immunes as much as you can.
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Cold sorc I think it’s better to max cold dmg and skip immunes as much as you can.


That's what I also read while researching cause cold res reduction items are less abundant compared to lightning/fire making damage output less significant to immunes.
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Jul 8 2026 12:28pm
Do I understand correctly that -res on items like runeword "Doom" or facets applies directly to targets without 1/5 penalty unlike cold mastery?


Yes indeed as far as I am aware.
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Jul 8 2026 12:46pm
I guess I might make a Doom then if someone doesn't convince me to do otherwise.

What would be the optimal setup anyway?

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Jul 8 2026 07:09pm
I guess I might make a Doom then if someone doesn't convince me to do otherwise.

What would be the optimal setup anyway?


Doom sucks. With doom you only get 11.2k blizzard
With facet Deaths Fathom you get 15.5k blizzard

With a doom you will only do slightly more against cold immunes but with a fathom you do way more against everything

You also have to roll -60 on the doom to do slightly more against cold immunes. If you roll -40 you are just a cucked loser
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Doom sucks. With doom you only get 11.2k blizzard
With facet Deaths Fathom you get 15.5k blizzard

With a doom you will only do slightly more against cold immunes but with a fathom you do way more against everything

You also have to roll -60 on the doom to do slightly more against cold immunes. If you roll -40 you are just a cucked loser


Eh, I tested both using mid-grade gear and some leftovers my pvp blizzer wasn't using, and at least with the 1 pt cold mastery build I found doom outperforms fathom. At least in the zones I was running where cold immune high hp fuckers like the throne room ghouls dwell. -59 doom and 34/-5 fathom.

I guess I might make a Doom then if someone doesn't convince me to do otherwise.

What would be the optimal setup anyway?


running nightwings doom vmagi spirit arach magefists and maras. I think BiS would be swap vmagi for blizz ormus and maras for a 2/10 ammy. Facets/new jewel in every slot ofc. The more +% cold damage you have, the less significant the gain is from +% dmg, while the more of a gain -res provides. Since the +% dmg applies to the blizz skill dmg without the other +% dmg modifiers being included in the calc.

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