When you learn about Jesus, you learn about God the Father, and the heart if God.

God's very person, nature, and heart is love. He is merciful and just, giving all an opportunity to come to repentance and to receive Jesus Christ as Lord.

What Jesus did on the cross was a divine exchange. His righteousness for my transgressions, iniquity, and sicknesses. While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. He loved me and gave His own life for me, so that I could be redeemed, forgiven, washed clean, and healed. He is still healing people today, and setting people free from all manner of sicknesses and diseases, and from the enslavement of the devil.

I used to be addicted to drugs and pornography, and Jesus set me free from them. I started taking drugs as a child through conventional medical means, and through years of diagnoses and visitations from doctors, I ended up with access to all kinds of psychoactive pills to modulate my perception of reality day-to-day, and pornography which was a tremendous source of shame and guilt in my own life is something that came into my life as a teenager as well as I went through phases of isolation. I was placed in special ed as a child and spent years separated from mainstream education, and when I got out of school I was already on disability and continued to live on disability through my 20's. On paper, I was considered disabled from birth.


Today, I take no drugs, and have no pornography in my life. I work full time, pay my own rent, and earn enough money to give to the church and to those around me when they have need, and I am no longer considered disabled on paper. I also have a relationship with Jesus, who marvelously answers my prayers from time to time, and even speaks to me sometimes in prayer and when I'm reading scripture. I have felt and experienced His presence in my life, and He gives me strength. He led me to the truth, and set me free.

When the Bible says 'You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free,' we can now go to the words where Jesus declares, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life,' and so I know that knowing the truth means knowing Jesus, and Jesus set me free. He is the good shepherd who leaves the 99 who are not lost for the one who is lost, to rescue them. Some three years ago, I was homeless sleeping out of my car, working full time, gambling, taking drugs, addicted to porn, and following people who were teaching how to make money & get the things you 'want' out of life, without regard for what is good & true. I was meditating on stoicism, and mind you, I had a Bible in my car that I had started reading, and when I began to read from the book of Isaiah I knew immediately that it was the Word of God, not a book written by the knowledge and wisdom of man. I hit follow on my facebook in a stoicism post, and in around three minutes later, I saw these Words:

'So you decided to follow satan!,'

In that single moment of divine intervention (because that was a supernatural event: Psalm 18:16), I understood that God is Holy, that God is Just, that He sees me, that stoicism is from the devil, and that every teaching that does not agree with Jesus Christ is of satan and not God. I felt the fear of God for the first time in my life, and began praying fervently to seek and know the truth, who is Jesus Christ.

Psalm 18:16
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16 He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters.

There was nothing good in my life, I was not doing good, and I was not headed anywhere good.

I then learned of the plan of salvation, the perfect life Jesus lived and His sacrificial death on the cross to redeem me from my sins and to reconcile me to God the Father in true righteousness and holiness. I was lost, and He came to save me. I had believed in Jesus, but I was not following Jesus. I was following the world and the enemy, and the enemy was leading me to hell.

John 3:16-19
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.



The Holy Spirit now lives in me, and sometimes He Himself speaks to me when I'm reading scripture or watching someone preach the Gospel. I remember this one night I was watching David Wilkerson preach, and I heard Him the Holy Spirit say 'Listen to him,' and I was ecstatic that God would speak to me and direct me.


God is very real, and present, and loves you tremendously, and wants a living relationship with you. Jesus is not a character in a book, He is the living truth who came to set us free from the devil.

What Jesus accomplished on the cross is so, so great.

The Bible declares,
Psalm 68:5
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5 A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.

Matthew 4:23-25
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23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.
25 And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan.

Acts 4:34
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34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,



Here we see God fathering the orphaned, watching diligently over the widow;
1 kings:
13 And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
14 For thus saith the Lord God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the Lord sendeth rain upon the earth.
15 And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
16 And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the Lord, which he spake by Elijah.


Fathering the fatherless:
Proverbs 3:1-2
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3 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:
2 For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.


Giving understanding, knowledge, wisdom, might, fear, and counsel, with His very own Majestic presence, removing our needs, and giving us abundant provision.


The mercies and goodness of God stretch so far, that even those who died in the flood in the days of Noah were among those who Jesus came to save as we have received revelation through the Gospel that declares this wonderful good news:
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.


Matthew 12:40
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40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

When Jesus died on the cross, He descended:
Ephesians 4:9
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9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?



Glory be to God.

because of the things 'atheists say

It's just moronic to say what I would or wouldn't do or say something based on something you heard from some other atheist.

If you have brown hair I'm not going to assume you'd do the same thing someone else I met with brown hair would do. It would be really strange if I did. Equally as strange as what you are doing when you say I would claim it was aliens if a message were written in the sky.

You have the opportunity to ask what I would or wouldn't do or what I would or wouldn't say, but you'd rather assume. It's ridiculous and disingenuous.

This post was edited by x_h on Jul 4 2026 01:50pm

If you want to brag about how a fictional character saving the world then jesus doesn't even come close. All he did was give up a weekend for an imaginary bad behaviour that no one asked him to do.
For example James Bond and Iron man saved the world many times over from more believable threats far more than jesus ever could. Why aren't you praying to them?

Also there is no proof of resurrection so stop making false claims when you don't have receipts.

What boogers are you talking about? I gave you National Institute of Health article where it clasisifies (AUD) as a mental/brain disorder.

You had a mental disorder called (AUD) the effects are irrelevant part of the conversation. We are talking about your causal or post hoc fallacy. Where you assumed X (praying to a magic wizard) occurred, then Y (give up alcohol) occurred; therefore, X caused Y.
correlation does not imply causation.

You haven't established a causal link. I pointed an obvious flaw in your assumption that millions give up alcohol WITHOUT a magic jesus. Therefore jesus either doesn't exist or is not required.

Also I am not convinced you gotten rid of it. Because your slur speech, cannot critically think, constantly changing or ignoring the subject, misrepresenting what is being said and having problems grasping even basic of concepts.

In three days He defeated sin, the grave, and hell, and on the cross, He bore the full penalty of the righteous judgement of God against all sin that humanity has ever committed and will commit, which is the justified wrath of God against all unrighteousness. One sin is enough to send you to hell, and without Jesus we would go to hell for one sin because God is perfect, holy and just, but through Jesus we have obtained mercy, receiving the forgiveness of ours sins and eternal redemption, which means that by accepting the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for the debt of my sins, God has forgiven me for my sins and declared me righteous through Jesus Christ because of what Jesus has done, allowing me to live in the inheritance of righteousness that God has given me through Jesus.

Luke 7:
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!
35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.

Isaiah 53:11
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11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Isaiah 42:4-6
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4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

John 19:30
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30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the Spirit.




Did you know that Jesus was asking God the Father if there was another way to save mankind from eternal separation from God?
Matthew 26:39
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39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

The cup spoken of here is the cup the contained the full measure of God's judgement against all iniquity, unrighteousness, wickedness, and sin, and He drank it for God the Father, for you, and for me, and for everybody that has ever lived and will live, so that we can receive forgiveness of our sins and eternal redemption to the praise of His Majesty.

There are people all over the world testifying of the grace of God working in their lives, who have received from the hand of God glorious healings, miracles, and deliverances. That is why it is called a testimony, because the testimony is the evidence. They themselves are 'evidence,' but is it by faith that God is please.
Romans 4:16
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16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,



Romans 10:10-17
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10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

This thread still going? Its simple. People are free to believe in a god if they want too and if not thats okay too.

addone wants to control the population. I don't think his plan will succeed though.

1 Corinthians 1:19-31 KJV
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.