Their blood is on those who uses them as human shield

No. It's on the guy dropping 2000 pound bomb on kids from the sky like a coward.

Calling it 'cowardice' is just a way to avoid talking about the reality of urban warfare.
Modern militaries don't use precision air power to be 'cowardly'; they use it to avoid sending thousands of infantry soldiers into house-to-house meat grinders. But the real numbers tell the story. If Israel’s intent were to kill children, or if they were dropping munitions indiscriminately as you claim, the casualty numbers would be in the hundreds of thousands. The fact that the numbers are what they are despite the sheer volume of munitions used and the density of the battlefield is proof of the extreme measures Israel takes to minimize civilian harm.
The 'coward' label is just a way to ignore the fact that the party forcing those strikes is the one that chooses to launch rockets and build tunnel shafts in the exact same bedrooms where their own children sleep. A pilot flying a mission doesn't choose the battlefield; the people who decided to turn a school into a weapons depot made that choice for them.
You’re clinging to a narrative that paints you as the victim, but you’re ignoring that the death and destruction in Gaza are the direct, inevitable result of a 'resistance' that has built its entire survival strategy on the bodies of its own people.

The UN explicitly states that if you use civilians as human shields, it is your fault for the deaths.

Your entire defense is 'if they were really trying to kill civilians, they'd have killed more.' Think about how absurd that sounds. That's not an argument—it's a moral escape hatch. Civilian deaths don't become acceptable because you imagine an even worse alternative.

You also keep repeating Hamas talking points in reverse: because Hamas commits war crimes, Israel's actions automatically become beyond criticism. That's not how accountability works. Both parties can violate the laws of war.

Calling every critic someone who 'clings to a victim narrative' isn't evidence—it's a way to avoid engaging with the actual humanitarian consequences of the campaign

So you condemn Israel ? because they used human shields too. Also Israel invaded Gaza and Lebanon, they used human shields, and they bombed Gaza and Lebanon.

a. the people (civilians, women / children / w/e) that they killed - are all regarded as human shields according to you, so its hamas;hezbollah responsible.
b. MEANWHILE Israel ROUNDED UP people AND LITERALLY USED THEM AS HUMAN SHIELDS when going into Gaza, and, let me guess, this is also Hamas fault ?

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 2 2026 10:31am

Ill wait for a news source before I believe that one.

here are some sources:

1. Reuters reported that the US gathered intelligence in late 2024 regarding Israeli officials discussing the use of Palestinians to explore tunnels potentially rigged with explosives. This information raised questions within the Biden administration.
Source (a) https://rtrunews.com/news/627737-israel-human-shield-gaza/ (b) https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-intel-revealed-israeli-officials-discussing-use-of-human-shields-in-gaza-sources-say/?utm_source=article_hpsidebar&utm_medium=desktop_site&utm_campaign=before-talks-with-trump-saudi-arabia-doubles-down-on-terms-for-israel-ties

2. A key allegation is the IDF's use of a tactic called the "mosquito protocol." This involves forcing Palestinian civilians, sometimes including teenagers, to enter Hamas tunnels to map them out and transmit GPS data back to Israeli units. Former soldiers described this practice in an ITV documentary. Source (a) https://www.timesofisrael.com/british-tv-set-to-air-film-interviewing-idf-soldiers-on-alleged-gaza-war-misconduct/amp/stav@timesofisrael.com/stav@timesofisrael.com/

3. The ITV documentary Breaking Ranks: Inside Israel's War featured testimonies from current and former IDF soldiers who confirmed the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields. An Israeli conscript described his commander telling them they didn't need to worry about international law, but rather the "IDF spirit," after questioning the use of a 16-year-old boy
Source (a) https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-soldiers-describe-killings-of-civilians-aid-seekers-in-gaza-at-wish-of-army-officers-/3741328 (b) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-war-crimes-gaza-whistleblower-itv-documentary-b2862575.html

Welcome your response.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 2 2026 12:30pm

You are completely missing the difference between a state policy and individual misconduct.
I don't condemn Israel because using human shields is not Israeli military policy. In fact, Israel’s own Supreme Court explicitly outlawed it, making it illegal for any soldier to do so. When an individual soldier breaks the law, it is a crime investigated by the military justice system. A democracy is defined by its laws, not by the individuals who break them.
Can you say the same about Hamas or Hezbollah?
Show me the Hamas court that banned human shields. Show me the Hezbollah directive telling their fighters not to store rockets in civilian kitchens or build command centers under hospitals. You can’t. For them, human shielding isn't a rogue action by a bad soldier it is their core, official military doctrine, explicitly designed to use their own civilians' deaths as a public relations weapon.
There is zero moral equivalence between a democratic state whose laws forbid a practice, and a terrorist organization whose entire strategy relies on it.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 2 2026 10:05pm

Thats not my entire defense but that is a fact