It's a bit of both in Minnesota. When enforcement does happen it's at serious risk of being undermined by politically appointed agendas (DAs, AJs, Governor). In many cases though, the state code is weak. When cities were making headlines with ICE enforcement in the streets, I can assure you the protestors were disproportionately from Edina. The locals that live in the areas like Minnehaha Ave E / 7th area welcomed the FED cleaning up the hood over there. Large African and Hmong community didn't even register in the cameras or something

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jul 2 2026 08:30am

If the abuse would have happened by a rich white man at Epstein island, Donald wouldn't have cared.

Unfortunately undermining justice is just part of the Western way. Obviously this thread is just some shitpost bait thread but if we're actually talking justice, not only are pardons politically driven but also obviously wealth driven and the wealth driven ones i'd argue likely cause significantly more damage, typically an individual or corporation cheating, damaging, lieing, and impacting tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands, or in the event its sexual exploitation a larger group of individuals as well. When you're wealthy, rules for thee but not for me. Really does not matter at all what side of the political spectrum you sit on these days, its corrupted to its very core.

The amount of pardons we see now that are political or pardon political allies, protect inner-circle associates, donors, etc. seems quite high compared to the non-immediate past. Perhaps that is incorrect though.

I find it confusing why there's such an emphasis on the Democrats when this is a ubiquitous issue facing the whole of the country.

We're going into the midterm elections and the democrats put themselves into the unforced error of having the New York Times running articles about how they're protecting illegal alien pedophiles from both prison and deportation.
The Republicans couldn't choose a more advantageous playing field and the guy who democrats ran for vice president just 2 years ago is now choosing to take up the cause of a repeat child rapist

Its not me out there cherry picking the examples, and the administration didn't fall asleep and fail to notice it, they're already turning the cannons on Walz at this moment with press releases, like this;
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/07/01/minnesota-madness-governor-tim-walz-pardons-criminal-illegal-alien-convicted

This wasn't driven by wealth or access. It wasn't a favor to a donor. This is pure, unadulterated policy. It is the formal political position of the top democrats that opposing the enforcement of our immigration laws is such a priority it outweighs offenses like raping children. It is not a consequence of due process or contrivance of evidentiary rules setting some pedophile free on a technicality. This is a purposeful use of the pardon power to absolve a child rapist so that he can't be deported. Because that's what democrats want. That's why Minnesotans turned up in the streets to obstruct ICE agents, that's why a bunch of white people would try to stop federal officers from arresting an illegal alien in Boston wanted in El Salvador for raping children, like this;
https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-ice-agitators-blow-cover-boston-allowing-child-rape-suspect-evade-arrest-weeks

I don't get to pick what the democrats choose as their policies going into an election year, they chose this. Its not like its some wacko fringe Portland city councilor, this is Tim Walz, their candidate for VP and even possibly wanted to run in 2028 himself.

Well because its entirely their policy and nobody else in either the republican party or anywhere near the center agrees with this
Only one movement is pushing for stopping the deportation of illegal alien child sex predators

Republicans think if we just execute pedos in the streets it will cut down on abuse.

Democrats pretend that if we normalize it as a sexual ideation they will feel safe enough to get treatment and cut down on abuse.

Both wrong. reality imo is a pedophile is a broken human that can not really be fixed in most cases. if they abuse a child, prison for 20+ years, then chemical castration, and lifelong parole if they ever go near another child they're right back in prison. some people can't be fixed, thank goodness its a tiny % of the population.

I do think that the democratic lean in this topic is valid however, because democrats are the party of being accepting towards other cultures far more than republicans. and this person used their cultural practices as an actual argument against their guilt, and the community abided along cultural lines to get him a light sentence. Now a democratic governor is considering covering for him to avoid deportation. are we truly so polarized politically that even pedophiles are an unacceptable sacrifice on the altar of deportation?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 2 2026 10:06am

Republicans are actively running point on blocking the Epstein files, so suggesting that there is 'only one movement' for whom this is an issue is bizarre.

I wouldn't suggest this issue is only attributed to Republicans. Conservative Republicans have done a LOT more cover for pedos than just Epstein. Catholic church, pervs like Roy Moore, GOP states with sub-18 consent laws, etc.

I'm saying in context THIS specific instance is on Democrats, and I think it's due to tendencies the modern Democratic party has. All tendencies I think can be fixed. They need to stop the war on everything Trump and focus on fighting battles worth fighting. You dont need to have a zero tolerance policy for cooperating with ICE on deportations. Refusing to hand over a pedo, and pardoning his crimes so he has a legal case to thwart deportation, is insane behavior that actually gives life to one of the most overused phrases in modern politics, "TDS". And it's not just Minnesota, local jurisdictions refusing to hand over violent criminal inmates at discharge is another case of insanity. We're knowingly releasing violent criminals, on already shortened sentences from liberal jurisdictions, onto the streets and telling cops to not help find them to own MAGA? That's gross.

The only whataboutism counter I can think of is Governors and Towns in GOP areas flouting CDC and Federal standards during Covid. But most of those federal demands weren't upheld when challenged in court. Deportation isn't a new untested law, it is the law, and it's reviewed on a case by case basis to create a deportation that ICE executes. If deportations are on the conveyor belt of justice they're on the slowest and most inspected conveyor I've ever seen. They take years to reach court, undergo countless reviews, and are a singular process for each individual.

Except that in the Epstein case, we've already identified who the responsible parties are and they're already either dead or in prison.
Its the difference between actually supporting something as formal policy and being accused of a conspiracy theory by nutwings. They are two very different things.

Democrats accuse Elon Musk of being a Nazi because he raised his arm at a slightly too high angle while saluting a crowd, and simultaneously support sending heavy weapons to Ukrainian Nazis who stand around in a circlejerk formation in Maidan Square shouting ZIEG HEIL and spamming the 1488 emote. The former is just slander, the latter is actual policy. Democrats will actively protect illegal alien pedophiles from deportation as a formal policy stance to the point one of the top democrats in the nation is going out on a limb to pardon a child rapist just so he can't be sent back to his home country. Meanwhile they slander Trump. See the difference?


I think Donald Trump has the opportunity here to change executive policy to force immigration judges to accept deportations for people who have provably raped or murdered children, even if they aren't technically convicted of a crime anymore. At the end of the day, the executive bureaucracy is beholden to the President's orders and all limitations on enforcement powers are entirely within the plenary powers of the unitary executive. Its simply ludicrous that the actual state of affairs right now is that the president has ordered the deportation of criminal illegal aliens and his political opponents are responding by retroactively erasing the convictions of criminal illegal aliens. And its really just the backwards-facing orders, because for a few years now state prosecutors and judges have been purposefully letting illegal aliens get away with crimes scot free for the explicit purpose of shielding them from deportation, so you've got all kinds of violent and/or sex criminals who are being given sweetheart deals, undercharging or just not charged at all. And judges will just openly state they are doing it to stop Trump from deporting them.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 2 2026 11:41am