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What United Nations?

The UN has now formally classified the situation in Gaza as genocide—but this designation is unlikely to change anything on the ground. Israel has long dismissed the UN's legitimacy, most graphically when it shredded the UN Charter at the General Assembly. The real question is whether individual states will now act on what the world has known for three years. In the UK, the US, and Germany, however, where pro-Israeli interests are deeply embedded in the political establishment, meaningful policy shifts remain highly unlikely.

You are confusing a report by a highly politicized committee with a formal UN legal designation. The UN has not classified anything as genocide only the International Court of Justice (ICJ) can do that, and it hasn't.
Let’s be clear about what you are actually citing: a report from a UN Commission whose leaders have a documented history of anti-Israel bias, relying entirely on casualty numbers supplied directly by Hamas.
If you want to talk about reality on the ground, look at the facts. If Israel’s intent were genocide, it wouldn’t be facilitating thousands of aid trucks, setting up field hospitals, and executing targeted operations in the densest urban combat zones in history. The civilian toll is a tragedy, but it is the direct result of Hamas’s explicit strategy: burying its entire military infrastructure under schools, mosques, and homes to use civilians as shields.
The UK, the US, and Germany don't back Israel because of a conspiracy of 'embedded interests.' They back Israel because they are democracies that understand a fundamental strategic reality: if a democratic nation is told it doesn't have the right to dismantle a genocidal terror proxy on its border, then no democracy on earth is safe. Israel didn't protest the UN Charter out of nowhere; it protested a corrupt international body that has lost all moral clarity

1. You are confusing a report by a highly politicized committee with a formal UN legal designation.
2. The UN has not classified anything as genocide only the International Court of Justice (ICJ) can do that, and it hasn't.
3. Let’s be clear about what you are actually citing: a report from a UN Commission whose leaders have a documented history of anti-Israel bias,
4. relying entirely on casualty numbers supplied directly by Hamas.
5. If you want to talk about reality on the ground, look at the facts.
6. If Israel’s intent were genocide, it wouldn’t be facilitating thousands of aid trucks,
7. setting up field hospitals, and executing targeted operations in the densest urban combat zones in history.
8. The civilian toll is a tragedy, but it is the direct result of Hamas’s explicit strategy:
9. burying its entire military infrastructure under schools, mosques, and homes to use civilians as shields.
10. The UK, the US, and Germany don't back Israel because of a conspiracy of 'embedded interests.'
11. They back Israel because they are democracie that understand a fundamental strategic reality: if a democratic nation is told it doesn't have the right to dismantle a genocidal terror proxy on its border, then no democracy on earth is safe.
12. Israel didn't protest the UN Charter out of nowhere; it protested a corrupt international body that has lost all moral clarity
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You said way too much here. each of them are contentious points.

1. Your argument is that its not the UN, it was a UN Commission.
2. Your argument is only the International Court of Justice can make this designation.
3. Your argument is the UN is anti-israeli and biased.
4. Your argument is that they relied entirely on casualty numbers supplied directly by Hamas.
5. Your argument is we should look at Gaza and make up our own mind.
6. Your argument is that Israel facilitated Aid Trucks, and that this is evidence of something.
7. I do not understand Your argument re: Field Hospitals and targeted strikes.
8. Your argument is for all the civilians that died, its Hamas fault
9. Your argument re: burying stuff under schools and homes leaves a door open to a harsh response
10. There are democratic countries in the world that do not support Israel, and do not have to defend themselves for aiding a genocide
11. see #10
12. Your argument is that the UN is a corrupt international body.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 27 2026 06:17am

Noting no response, Moving on...

Israel is currently carrying out a scorched earth policy in Southern Lebanon. These are not my words, they are the words of Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz who has stated that the aim is to wipe border villages off the map, stating they would follow the model used in Beit Hanoun and Rafah in Gaza, where 90% of homes were left in ruins. Israel is using airstrikes, white phosphorus bombs and scorched earth operations.

Behind this, Israel has drawn up a new map designating a large "no-return" security zone, effectively barring residents from returning to their homes. i.e. Ethnic Cleansing. The terms "ethnic cleansing," "scorched earth," and the description of entire villages fleeing are all used by credible international organizations, political leaders, and media outlets to accurately describe the ongoing situation in southern Lebanon. While this is not being widely reported on in national news, it can be read about in international news including CNN, El Pais, The Guardian and Reuters.

I didn't reply because listing my arguments back to me with passive-aggressive numbers isn't a counter-argument it’s an evasion. But if you want to move on to Lebanon, let’s talk about the facts you conveniently left out.
You throw around words like 'scorched earth' and 'ethnic cleansing,' but you completely ignore why those border villages look the way they do. For months, Hezbollah completely militarized southern Lebanon. They packed civilian homes with anti-tank missiles, buried ammunition depots under living rooms, and built massive tunnel networks right up to our border all to launch thousands of unprovoked rockets that forced 60,000 Israeli civilians to flee their homes.
When a terrorist organization turns a border village into a heavily fortified front-line military base aimed at murdering our citizens, that village becomes a legitimate military target under international law. Israel isn't carrying out 'ethnic cleansing'; it is dismantling a massive, active invasion infrastructure that should have been removed years ago under UN Resolution 1701.
Creating a secure buffer zone so our citizens can finally return home without facing anti-tank fire from across the fence isn't a crime it's basic national survival. You expect Israel to let a genocidal proxy sit on its doorstep and fire rockets forever. We won't. If protecting our people means flattening the rocket launchers hidden in those border homes, that is Hezbollah’s responsibility, not ours.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jun 29 2026 08:54pm

"It's their responsibility we are stealing land"
By your logic everyone you deem an enemy you are free to take their land to create "buffer zones".
Israel needs to figure out a way to make peace, not war, only then can there be some sort of dim hope for lasting peace. Hard times ahead when Israel has butchered 25k kids in gaza though, i would imagine the line of family members who now rightfully want retribution is long.

At times I rly felt for the Israeli people as well.
But reading you makes it fade away quickly.

Which obviously isn't right. The majority cannot be blamed for its government's actions.

But the content that seems to be widely felt about the atrocious acts committed on a daily basis is extremely worrying and disingenuous.