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Jun 29 2026 04:57pm
Trivia time, did I say Faith itself is truth, or did the scripture say Faith leads to truth?

I have faith you'll get the answer to this right. As much as you tell other people here they are illiterate you sure do struggle with reading the responses.

Edit: I even bolded it for you. Can't make it any easier.


You haven't demonstrated anything just making blind belief/faith assertions. That is not truth and doesn't lead to truth all it does is reinforces the indoctrination or imagination.

Here are massive contradictions you are refusing to reconcile different requirements for salvation (whatever that means)

Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.

Galatians 2:16
know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and NOT by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

James 2:24
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and NOT by faith alone.

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Matthew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the onewho stands firm to the end will be saved.

Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

This post was edited by addone on Jun 29 2026 04:58pm
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Jun 29 2026 05:15pm
You haven't demonstrated anything just making blind belief/faith assertions. That is not truth and doesn't lead to truth all it does is reinforces the indoctrination or imagination.

Here are massive contradictions you are refusing to reconcile different requirements for salvation (whatever that means)

Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.

Galatians 2:16
know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and NOT by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

James 2:24
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and NOT by faith alone.

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Matthew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the onewho stands firm to the end will be saved.

Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


How did I know you'd ignore my post and not admit you completely changed the wording. Thisbis a clear demonstration of diverting attention to avoid some humility and admit you were wrong about something.

There are no contradictions in these verses. Again, you just misunderstand the word of God. It's also important to spend time in the entire chapter instead of telling ai to hand pick verses out of context.
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Jun 29 2026 05:24pm
I agree for jewish slaves they seem to have a LOT of gold and jewlery not to mention houses and other possessions. The story doesn't add up one bit.
These plot holes are too wide to ignore surely even you can see how christianity is a lie.

Anyway glad you are sitting this one out. Because you would just end up exposing more ignorance



You magic god remains afk without a single response. Its only people like you who are doing all the replying.
Either your god is non existent or not all powerful pick one.


o? that was your argument? the jews had to much gold and jewls
so thats your disproof?

with your imagination fully complying with your cognitive bias you decide the culture of ancient egypt and the availability of things like gold and jewels in a world thats yet to be exploited of such things.

ok listen up ev1. we supposed to deny Christ no because addone bee boop and AE have decided the ancient jews had to much stuff when they were slaves
so i am left with making a decision between AE/addones abundant 'atheist cognative bias imagination of magic or christ

the dumbest argument in the threads history. one would thing arguments would ge better but they are getting dumber................and dumber
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Just take one aspect in this entire story which doesn't make sense the Tabernacle which the bible constructed used 29 gold talents and 730 shekels, which converts to approximately 2,175 to 2,200 pounds of gold. Thats roughly 1 metric tonne of solid gold they would need a dump truck to carry that much
Where did the jewish slaves get their hands on that much gold lol? Not only that they had more gold as they also supposedly built a golden calf statue made out of gold. And thats not counting all the jewlery they had which the bible mentions

That doesn't sound like they were slaves at all sounds like they were very wealthy OR a made up nonsense story


whats in bold. he trying to be stupid on purpose? they would use carts pulled by work animals. (seriously you and AE are baffled by this?)

How Much Weight Can A Horse Pull?
A healthy horse will typically be able to pull 10-15 times its own weight for a very short distance, depending on the breed and age of the horse. During a normal workday of 8 hours, a horse can pull around 1.5 times its own bodyweight with a cart.

so a horse weighing in at 1000 lbs could pulll a cart weighing 1000-1500 lbs. so two horses pulling one cart or two horses each have a cart. wow instead of a dump truck


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You magic god remains afk without a single response. Its only people like you who are doing all the replying.
Either your god is non existent or not all powerful pick one

you would say the aliens are trying to trick you. probably already happened

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 29 2026 05:26pm
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o? that was your argument? the jews had to much gold and jewls
so thats your disproof?

with your imagination fully complying with your cognitive bias you decide the culture of ancient egypt and the availability of things like gold and jewels in a world thats yet to be exploited of such things.

ok listen up ev1. we supposed to deny Christ no because addone bee boop and AE have decided the ancient jews had to much stuff when they were slaves
so i am left with making a decision between AE/addones abundant 'atheist cognative bias imagination of magic or christ

the dumbest argument in the threads history. one would thing arguments would ge better but they are getting dumber................and dumber


whats in bold. he trying to be stupid on purpose? they would use carts pulled by work animals. (seriously you and AE are baffled by this?)

How Much Weight Can A Horse Pull?
A healthy horse will typically be able to pull 10-15 times its own weight for a very short distance, depending on the breed and age of the horse. During a normal workday of 8 hours, a horse can pull around 1.5 times its own bodyweight with a cart.

so a horse weighing in at 1000 lbs could pulll a cart weighing 1000-1500 lbs. so two horses pulling one cart or two horses each have a cart. wow instead of a dump truck



you would say the aliens are trying to trick you. probably already happened


That was one of many plot holes not my entire argument. That specic argument was how did SLAVES accumulate metric tonnes of gold, jewlery, precious metals, houses etc NOT how is it possible to carry that much gold in weight. Dump truck was merely an analogy. You are not even refuting the actual argument just intentionally misrepresenting and or misunderstanding what is actually being contested.

I thought you were going to sit this one out bud? What happened? Because you failed as I said you would.
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Jun 29 2026 06:07pm
That was one of many plot holes not my entire argument. That specic argument was how did SLAVES accumulate metric tonnes of gold, jewlery, precious metals, houses etc NOT how is it possible to carry that much gold in weight. Dump truck was merely an analogy. You are not even refuting the actual argument just intentionally misrepresenting and or misunderstanding what is actually being contested.

I thought you were going to sit this one out bud? What happened? Because you failed as I said you would.


lol i just told you
why i think your a bot. 'you process like a bot

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o? that was your argument? the jews had to much gold and jewls
so thats your disproof?

with your imagination fully complying with your cognitive bias you decide the culture of ancient egypt and the availability of things like gold and jewels in a world thats yet to be exploited of such things.

ok listen up ev1. we supposed to deny Christ no because addone bee boop and AE have decided the ancient jews had to much stuff when they were slaves
so i am left with making a decision between AE/addones abundant 'atheist cognative bias imagination of magic or christ

the dumbest argument in the threads history. one would thing arguments would ge better but they are getting dumber................and dumber


whats in bold. he trying to be stupid on purpose? they would use carts pulled by work animals. (seriously you and AE are baffled by this?)

How Much Weight Can A Horse Pull?
A healthy horse will typically be able to pull 10-15 times its own weight for a very short distance, depending on the breed and age of the horse. During a normal workday of 8 hours, a horse can pull around 1.5 times its own bodyweight with a cart.

so a horse weighing in at 1000 lbs could pulll a cart weighing 1000-1500 lbs. so two horses pulling one cart or two horses each have a cart. wow instead of a dump truck
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Jun 29 2026 06:47pm
lol i just told you
why i think your a bot. 'you process like a bot


This doesn't in any way refute the argument I presented. All you are doing is just calling me names.

Come back when you can justify how slaves acquired that much gold, jewlery, precious metals, houses, stock etc.
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Jun 29 2026 08:41pm
This doesn't in any way refute the argument I presented. All you are doing is just calling me names.

Come back when you can justify how slaves acquired that much gold, jewlery, precious metals, houses, stock etc.


ok i will do it again. thats why your a bot. bots are not that capable of processing dialog

with your imagination fully complying with your cognitive bias you decide the culture of ancient egypt and the availability of things like gold and jewels in a world thats yet to be exploited of such things.
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Jun 29 2026 09:12pm
ok i will do it again. thats why your a bot. bots are not that capable of processing dialog

with your imagination fully complying with your cognitive bias you decide the culture of ancient egypt and the availability of things like gold and jewels in a world thats yet to be exploited of such things.


How does that refute my argument?

Slaves couldn't own property, gold, stock etc yet the bible would have us believe they just magically had metric tonnes of gold and precious metals etc.

That doesn't add up. If the story was about wealthy nobility and how the jews were upper class capitalist that would explain their wealth. But because the bible clearly insists they were highly oppressed slaves it doesn't make sense.

This is called a plot hole where the story leaves a major gap that doesn't make sense.
When stories don't make sense they lose credibility, just adds one more reason to think it's a fake story.
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Jun 29 2026 09:23pm
How does that refute my argument?

Slaves couldn't own property, gold, stock etc yet the bible would have us believe they just magically had metric tonnes of gold and precious metals etc.

That doesn't add up. If the story was about wealthy nobility and how the jews were upper class capitalist that would explain their wealth. But because the bible clearly insists they were highly oppressed slaves it doesn't make sense.

This is called a plot hole where the story leaves a major gap that doesn't make sense.
When stories don't make sense they lose credibility, just adds one more reason to think it's a fake story.


because you say so or because AE says so...............

scripture of jews complaining about when they were in egypt and had it so good
Exodus 16:3
King James Version
3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.

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Jun 29 2026 11:59pm
because you say so or because AE says so...............

scripture of jews complaining about when they were in egypt and had it so good
Exodus 16:3
King James Version
3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the Lordin the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.


This says nothing of wealth all it just says they were eating bread, you can maybe extrapolate they were well fed. It doesn't even say when they were slaves under egyptian rule or after they broke free and wandered the desert.

Try again
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