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Jun 29 2026 10:28am
It certainly probably feels that way given the annual earnings of a russian compared to annual earnings of a USA family / household income. Daily expenses have always been significantly lower than the USA obviously, but earnings are also drastically lower so and increase in gasoline prices to even close to what the USA pays would be not great for the average person.

Anecdotally a friend just went back to visit her family and certainly QoL has taken a bit of a plunge. Obviously this is going to happen as war-time drags on, some initial boom I am sure but now its dragging. To say quality of life in general for both side has not gone in the shitter I think would be a lie.

For the average citizen in either country, I suspect no one is #WINNING


Unfortunately, that price was set well before the so-called "'fuel crisis". You could go on forever about purchasing power, the Big Mac index, and all that, but the truth is fuel prices were never reasonable to begin with. In Ukraine, prices in hryvnias are about the same number as in rubles- except the exchange rate is 1 to 2.5 or higher, meaning they're effectively twice what they are in the US. As I said before, Ukraine has no domestic oil production or refining, so it's completely reliant on imports. That makes it highly vulnerable- even to attacks by short-range drones on fuel trucks and gas stations.
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Jun 29 2026 10:49am
Yup. Countries decided to join NATO because pootin kept invading Other countries. Now, gas is rare and twice as expensive as America. Haha


Wrong. After negotiations the USSR pulled out of Eastern Europe without firing a single shot. Part of that deal was that NATO wouldn't take advantage by expanding East.

Putin decided enough was enough after NATO welcomed Georgia and Ukraine that's the facts right there


Russia never aided another country, amirite?

https://i.imgur.com/1HY8opj.jpeg


Cuba? That's interesting. Have they ever invaded or posed a treath to the US? I think it's the other way around
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Jun 29 2026 11:55am
Wrong. After negotiations the USSR pulled out of Eastern Europe without firing a single shot. Part of that deal was that NATO wouldn't take advantage by expanding East.

Putin decided enough was enough after NATO welcomed Georgia and Ukraine that's the facts right there


You gotta spin it, I understand. Otherwise the boss man won't pay you. No hard feelings lad, I get it :hug:
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Jun 29 2026 12:31pm
You gotta spin it, I understand. Otherwise the boss man won't pay you. No hard feelings lad, I get it :hug:


The receipts, for all those clows that still don't understand what happened and rely on their local MSM propaganda garbage -->

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The USSR's peaceful retreat out of Eastern Europe occurred between 1989 and 1991. Driven by Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's reforms of perestroika (restructuring) and glasnost (openness), the Soviet Union chose not to use military force to stop mass protests, culminating in the dismantling of the Iron Curtain.



And: (drumroll)

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At the Bucharest Summit, NATO Allies welcomed Ukraine's and Georgia's Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership and agreed that these countries will become members of NATO.


https://www.nato.int/en/news-and-events/articles/news/2008/04/03/nato-decisions-on-open-door-policy

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Jun 29 2026 01:42pm
I did the math for you, 'cause I don't trust your math skills. Good thing you didn't ask why it's in dollars


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Jun 29 2026 01:55pm

Putin decided enough was enough after NATO welcomed Georgia and Ukraine that's the facts right there




Cuba? That's interesting. Have they ever invaded or posed a treath to the US? I think it's the other way around


Wrong. Ukraine isn't a NATO member. What does Cuba not invading the US have to do with Russia openly aiding them?
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Jun 29 2026 02:00pm
Hour-Long Lines At Moscow Gas Stations As Fuel Shortages Spread Across Russia

Even when Boris Yeltsin was president in Russia during the 90s they never had a gas shortage.



Lol
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/fuel-crisis-hits-moscow-after-ukrainian-strikes-on-refineries/33791272.html
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Jun 29 2026 06:24pm
Putin decided enough was enough after NATO welcomed Georgia and Ukraine that's the facts right there

If NATO signalling openness to Georgia and Ukraine in 2008 was as causal for Russia's reaction as you claim it is - why did it take another 6 years, until 2014, before Russia took military action?
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Jun 29 2026 07:09pm
the slavs still killing eachother? shame. world needs population control i guess.
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Jun 30 2026 12:14am
Wrong. Ukraine isn't a NATO member. What does Cuba not invading the US have to do with Russia openly aiding them?


I never said they are a NATO member. But you know that mr. strawman

You were talking about Putin invading other countries than you mention Cuba. Irony lol

How many times did the US try to kill Castro? :thumbsup:


If NATO signalling openness to Georgia and Ukraine in 2008 was as causal for Russia's reaction as you claim it is - why did it take another 6 years, until 2014, before Russia took military action?


The answer is in my post above and the article linked https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107025071&f=119&p=691642494#p691642494





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