Quote my post and debate me I'll produce the receipts, Victoria Nulands intercepted phonecall for example where they were discussing who to put in power after the coup

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When you put it like that, in that order, its impossible to argue a point. It's not safe to discuss the maiden, threats or victim blaming when one position portrays it as a Nazi coup. As you have correctly highlighted - cherry picking is somewhat problematic here.



it's gooms post - its problematic and not defend-able. while the broader context is fine its spoiled entirely by the Nazi Coup narrative.

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There were Issues in the Ukraine Russia Relationship going on 25 years and more. Europe and America were aware of these issues, but Ukraine is a sovereign state and can make its own decisions. In 2014 the government was toppled, with the aid of America. An element in Ukraine was not happy with this and Ukraine had armed resistance against Kyiv. Europe was aware that things were escalating but deferred direct negotiations to America. The negotiations failed and Russia invaded. Most people can agree with this narrative.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 29 2026 03:59am

Nazis is just an overlapping term he used for the ultra-nationalists / banderites that were influenced / bought by the West through organisations like USAID.

Reposting this picture @Maidan note the black and red bandera flags together with the EU flag.

We know the far right issues in Ukraine, they are well documented but its the principal - it was a uprising in Ukraine, not a Nazi uprising. yes, sure far right attendance, but not a Nazi uprising. I mean come on, every uprising has a nationalist element, thats what uprisings tend to be. While there is a defined history to Ukraine related to this, to say its a Nazi uprising is misplaced. they just hopped on board.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 29 2026 04:11am

Right. Show me receipts for that pls

That's what I just said



That post is spot on. There are lots of ultra-nationalist groups in Ukraine and before the war Western MSM news called it a big problem.

The US has funded all sorts of campaigns in countries they want to influence through USAID this became painfully clear when Elon Musk's DOGE produced the receipts.

The US are involved in countless regime changes and it's a well known fact. Hurts your feeling? Sucks for you

Thx again for another entertaining post

All hail Musk, the trillionaire with a moral compass similar to mephisto.
Where do you inform yourself?

This has nothing to do with the person Elon Musk but I guess it hurt your feelings.

Slowly but surely a picture of you starts emerging. How far to the left are you, left from chairman Mao?

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ty for this.
this is precisely where it goes wrong.
black and white. no nuances, no objective assessment but tribalism over reason.

I'm a conservative. Married (just once and have been for over a decade) with 3 kids, taxpaying and law-abiding citizen.
I go out to vote when obligated and I do so as I regard it as my duty as a patriot.
I roll my eyes at corruption and pseudo-debates understanding that the political theater is to be taken with a grain of salt.

But as a conservative I trust in the institutions of my country and most countries in the European union.

There are mechanisms in place to hold politicians accountable and professional journalism - especially state-financed, where you are not forced to make money but to inform the public - help with keeping a flawed system somewhat in check.

The alternative? Corrupted strongmen that work for their own pockets and agenda not caring for the little man. We can see how countries like Russia, the US or China are great at this.

As a conservative I believe in Christian values, where you take care of the weak instead of exploiting them. Fair taxation can help achieve those goals – not the everyone fights for themselves cut-throat capitalism you can see at play in the US – in my opinion a leading cause in the deterioration of society and values in America.

As a conservative I trust in science and reason.
You are the ‘progressive’ here. Looking down on established science, news outlets and traditional alliances.

But why? Why not be grateful that mRNA vaccinations can not just protect you from Covid but already approved for many more diseases and soon even cancer.
Why not condemn Russia for its brutal assault with atrocities like Butscha and the ongoing targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure.?

Is it because u r miserable and u want every1 else to be miserable too?
It’s quite common rly. So don’t beat yourself up about it. It’s not too late to change!