Testimony.

Testimony.

Testimony.


John 14:11-20
King James Version
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.


If you want God to show you that He exists and is present with you even now, and that He loves you, all that you have to do is ask Him.

There are millions of people that Jesus has rescued from horrible conditions of life and the most clear and definitive evidence is the persons themselves. Transformed lives. Redeemed lives. Rescued lives. Ignoring the evidence of lives that have been transformed, redeemed, and rescued by the work of the Holy Spirit in their lives is ignorance, and fighting against God who is your only help and Savior is ignorance. Jesus is constantly working to save, deliver, and restore His people, and there are millions of testimonies of the Glory of God touching lives with tremendous signs, wonders, and miracles taking place to bring about the plans and purposes of God in their lives. People have been freed from criminality, abuse, diseases, sicknesses, pain, and curses that came in through generational sins. People have been rescued from lifetimes of pain and trauma, delivered from evil spirits, and set free from the snares of the devil through Jesus. If somebody gives you their testimony, and tells you that they were once blind, but God opened their eyes, how will you ask them for evidence? They can see. If they tell you that they were once lame, and now can walk because Jesus healed their body, how will you ask them for evidence? Now they can walk. If somebody tells you that Jesus freed them from illnesses of the mind, depression, suicide, hearing voices & seeing things that are not there, and are now in their right mind, how will you ask them for evidence? If you see somebody in the church get out of a wheel chair that they have been bound in for many years, will you still ask them for evidence if it happens right infront of your own eyes? That's ignorance. Ask God to open your eyes. He will.

Don't knock it till you watch it.

Let God take out that heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

Praise Jesus!

I did ask both in this thread and in private. No jesus. What do you think this thread is about? If your god is real he would of shown up here and proved himself or spoke for his own existence. He clearly can as the bible claims he is all powerful and gives examples of his alleged showing up.
Instead its only people who do the talking. Is
Conclusion is you might be hallucinating or imagining this "god"

I have given you and your god to present "himself" every opportunity yet he continues to not exist. Hey "GOD" of the bible if you hear this let us know if you are real, so we don't have to rely on hearsay of a 2000 year old book or personal anecdotes from sew.
Please respond in the next post and prove once and for all.

Inb4 dodge

Matthew 12:38-42 ESV

The Sign of Jonah

38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”

39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here. 42 The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon’s wisdom, and now something greater than Solomon is here.

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You've changed the standard again.

The discussion started with whether Christianity has historical support. Now your argument is, "If God doesn't personally appear to me on demand, then He doesn't exist."

That doesn't logically follow.

It's like saying, "If intelligent extraterrestrial life exists, they should answer my radio message today. They didn't, therefore they don't exist." The conclusion doesn't follow from the premise.

You're assuming that if God exists, He must reveal Himself whenever and however you request. That's a philosophical assumption, not a demonstrated fact.

From the Christian perspective, God isn't an object in a laboratory who can be summoned on command. Throughout the Bible, God reveals Himself according to His own purposes, not ours.

You asked how I know God exists. I answered honestly: not because He appeared to me in this thread, but because I find the cumulative philosophical, historical, and experiential case persuasive.

You may disagree with that conclusion, but demanding that God perform on cue isn't evidence that He doesn't exist. It's simply evidence that He didn't respond in the way you demanded.

So I'll ask you the same question I've asked before: what evidence would you genuinely accept? Not rhetorically—what would convince you that God exists?

Because if the answer is "nothing," then this isn't an investigation of the evidence; it's a declaration that no possible evidence would ever be enough.

maybe make yourself presentable

The amount of contradictions, fallacies and just plain lies you managed to cram into one post is impressive.

Firstly wasn't even talking to you. Why do you feel so entitled to make this about you and your misapprehension.
The conversation was between me sew and his so called god. The god of the bible failed to show up again (as he always does). You interjected

Where did i ever change the standard of proof? It has always been physical, logical and or credible first hand eyewitness testimony. Not just one

Christians love spamming contradictions
One post: ask, seek and knock and it will be given etc
The next when I ask and seek in this thread i am instead called adhominems that I am wicked and adulterous for doing so. Asking for proof is met with an attack how convenient and totally not corrupt.
Christians don't have the bandwidth to see these things as contradictory.

Already covered jonah and a magical fish story. It ended with christians changing the subject.

Also bible claims god will answer and bible claims god is all powerful. So if god cannot answer a simple request or a question then clearly he either isn't all powerful or doesn't exist. You comparing your god with aliens and radio only places limits on him. If he is not all powerful and not a god then you can run the excuse about the delay.

I didn't philosophically assume its what the bible tells the reader.

The fact that you are asking what I would accept as evidence this late into the thread is a sign of being illiterate or not listening/selective hearing.
I listed many many times what I would happily accept. Ignoring what the other person has already told you is telling you are not a serious at debating. You are here to not seek understanding or be potentially wrong and admit fault. You are here to preach at someone no matter what, aka be a fanatic/ close minded individual.

I created this thread to challenge and test those beliefs you think are true. But you aren't questioning or testing anything just finding excuses and lying to yourself in order to preserve ego.

The bible still includes a total of zero contradictions. You continue to misunderstand and misrepresent the gospel.

You also have no interest in having faith and pursuing a relationship with God. He sees your heart and he sees your actions. You have full faith that he isn't real. Either you focus on your heart issue or you will continue to miss out on his truth. You calling him a coward and only demanding a physical representation just so you can move on and still treat others poorly is not the right way to approach the God of the Universe.

Let's ignore the personal remarks and stick to the actual discussion.

You said your standard is "physical evidence, logical evidence, or credible first-hand eyewitness testimony."

That's a much better place to start.

My question is this:

Do you apply that standard consistently to **all** unique events in ancient history?

For example, if multiple first-century witnesses consistently claimed they saw an event, would you ever consider that sufficient historical evidence, even if the event couldn't be repeated scientifically?

If your answer is "no," then you've adopted a standard that rules out **every** unique ancient event before you even examine the evidence.

If your answer is "yes," then the discussion becomes whether the resurrection accounts meet that historical standard—not whether miracles are impossible by definition.

Also, regarding God "showing up" on command: Christianity has never taught that God is obligated to perform signs whenever someone demands them. In fact, the Gospels record occasions where Jesus refused to perform signs simply because people demanded one. So your expectation isn't something Christianity itself promises.

Finally, you keep saying I haven't questioned my beliefs. I have. That's precisely why I've spent time studying the historical evidence, manuscript evidence, philosophy, and arguments on both sides. You're free to conclude that I'm wrong, but it's not accurate to say I haven't examined the question.

I like how majorblood shut up when asked about to justify his assertions

Jesus doesn't know how to count. Contradictions you refuse to acknowledge.

God sent Gad, to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(2) Samuel 24:13 SEVEN years of famine.
(1) Chron.: 21:12 THREE years of famine.

When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
(1) Chron.: 18:4 David took SEVEN THOUSAND horsemen
(2) Samuel: 8:4 David took ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED horsemen

How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
(I ) Kings 4:26: FORTY THOUSAND
(2) Chron: 9:25 FOUR THOUSAND

The Temple contained how many baths?
(1) Kings 7:26 – TWO THOUSAND baths.
(2) Chron. 4:5 – THREE THOUSAND baths

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(2 )Kings 24:8 – EIGHTEEN years of age
(2) Chron. 36:9 EIGHT years of age