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Jun 22 2026 06:02am
any gigachad warlocks out there that have figured anything out about the IAS breakpoints with cleave / mirrored blades?

Having fun on my SSFHC warlock using an eth death decap, fanat demon, reapers toll might merc, and very recently the full horizon set but it's hard to tell how much i'm benefitting from IAS in other slots, what kinda set-ups are you guys running?
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Jun 22 2026 08:29am
Not entirely sure but I'd assume it's the same as for nec since all other bps are identical
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Not entirely sure but I'd assume it's the same as for nec since all other bps are identical


that was my first thought as well, buttttt

Warlock has the exact same breakpoints as Necromancer for casting, hit recovery, blocking, kicking barrels, and throwing weapons. Cleave and Mirrored Blades use hardcoded sequence skills, so until someone datamines this out of the code or bruteforces every single EIAS breakpoint, those skills won't be included.

that's a quote from an online ias calculator, looks like specifically cleave and mirrored blades are in their own world :D

so far with 30% ias from horazon gloves, 20% from highlords, and fanat aura attack speed seems ok but still a bit clunky weilding eth death decapitator. slaughter p8 trav runs but doesn't feel great in tzs / farming exp

anybody like running grief? ebotd? how are we liking different set ups?
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Jun 22 2026 04:56pm
It’s still a mystery as far as I know since the code is not available. So you have to basically test it yourself. I have been looking too.
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Weapon range is crucial to cleave so I will only list weapon range 3 and 4 here.
3: Glorious Axe, Cryptic axe, Hyperion Spear, Stygian Pike
4: Great Poleaxe, Giant Thresher, Mancatcher, Ghost Spear, War Pike

Also, with newly fixed cleave speed mod, it's very easy to achieve max speed. So only slowest weapons will be considered (wsm=0, 10, or 20)

Credit to Yinxiaoluyashili:
Assume cleave skill + ias% = 26
Hex +ias% = 30

No Fana Cleave speed:
wsm 0 Great Poleaxe
Frame IAS_from_gears
18f 0
17f 5
16f 14
15f 26
14f 44
13f 70 (max)

wsm 10 Glorious axe/ Cryptic axe
Frame IAS_from_gears
20f 0
19f 2
18f 8
17f 16
16f 27
15f 42
14f 65
13f 99 (max)

wsm 20 War pike
19f 0
18f 7
17f 14
16f 23
15f 37
14f 54
13f 80
12f 125(max)

Fana 11/12 (through bind demon lvl88 - lvl96) Cleave speed:
wsm 0 Great Poleaxe
Frame IAS_from_gears
15f 0
14f 2
13f 15 (max)

wsm 10 Glorious axe/ Cryptic axe
Frame IAS_from_gears
15f 0
14f 13
13f 29 (max)

wsm 20 War pike
15f 0
14f 7
13f 20
12f 40 (max)

This post was edited by Livingstone on Jun 22 2026 10:52pm
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Weapon range is crucial to cleave so I will only list weapon range 3 and 4 here.
3: Glorious Axe, Cryptic axe, Hyperion Spear, Stygian Pike
4: Great Poleaxe, Giant Thresher, Mancatcher, Ghost Spear, War Pike

Also, with newly fixed cleave speed mod, it's very easy to achieve max speed. So only slowest weapons will be considered (wsm=0, 10, or 20)

Credit to Yinxiaoluyashili:
Assume cleave skill + ias% = 26
Hex +ias% = 30

No Fana Cleave speed:
wsm 0 Great Poleaxe
Frame IAS_from_gears
18f 0
17f 5
16f 14
15f 26
14f 44
13f 70 (max)

wsm 10 Glorious axe/ Cryptic axe
Frame IAS_from_gears
20f 0
19f 2
18f 8
17f 16
16f 27
15f 42
14f 65
13f 99 (max)

wsm 20 War pike
19f 0
18f 7
17f 14
16f 23
15f 37
14f 54
13f 80
12f 125(max)

Fana 11/12 (through bind demon lvl88 - lvl96) Cleave speed:
wsm 0 Great Poleaxe
Frame IAS_from_gears
15f 0
14f 2
13f 15 (max)

wsm 10 Glorious axe/ Cryptic axe
Frame IAS_from_gears
15f 0
14f 13
13f 29 (max)

wsm 20 War pike
15f 0
14f 7
13f 20
12f 40 (max)


Hi, thanks for this. Have you tried edeath/ebotd colossus blade vs war pike?
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Weapon range is crucial to cleave so I will only list weapon range 3 and 4 here.
3: Glorious Axe, Cryptic axe, Hyperion Spear, Stygian Pike
4: Great Poleaxe, Giant Thresher, Mancatcher, Ghost Spear, War Pike

Also, with newly fixed cleave speed mod, it's very easy to achieve max speed. So only slowest weapons will be considered (wsm=0, 10, or 20)



brooooo thank you!! and thanks to Yinxiaoluyashili

i feel violated by my eth death in a decapitator - turns out decapitator has the same range as a phase blade?? lmao

time to start hunting for new bases!!

any updates on whether cleave and mirrored blades are sharing IAS breakpoints or if they are entirely different?

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Jun 23 2026 05:00am
Weapon range is crucial to cleave so I will only list weapon range 3 and 4 here.
3: Glorious Axe, Cryptic axe, Hyperion Spear, Stygian Pike
4: Great Poleaxe, Giant Thresher, Mancatcher, Ghost Spear, War Pike

Also, with newly fixed cleave speed mod, it's very easy to achieve max speed. So only slowest weapons will be considered (wsm=0, 10, or 20)

Credit to Yinxiaoluyashili:
Assume cleave skill + ias% = 26
Hex +ias% = 30

No Fana Cleave speed:
wsm 0 Great Poleaxe
Frame IAS_from_gears
18f 0
17f 5
16f 14
15f 26
14f 44
13f 70 (max)

wsm 10 Glorious axe/ Cryptic axe
Frame IAS_from_gears
20f 0
19f 2
18f 8
17f 16
16f 27
15f 42
14f 65
13f 99 (max)

wsm 20 War pike
19f 0
18f 7
17f 14
16f 23
15f 37
14f 54
13f 80
12f 125(max)

Fana 11/12 (through bind demon lvl88 - lvl96) Cleave speed:
wsm 0 Great Poleaxe
Frame IAS_from_gears
15f 0
14f 2
13f 15 (max)

wsm 10 Glorious axe/ Cryptic axe
Frame IAS_from_gears
15f 0
14f 13
13f 29 (max)

wsm 20 War pike
15f 0
14f 7
13f 20
12f 40 (max)


Great insight , thanks m8!!! Heard that warlock has better frames with sword. Any chance you could tell us breakpoints for botd/death in colossus blade/sword?
If death can hit any decent frames it may be a great build with an amp demon. No gface and stuff needed , allowing for higher fcr breakpoints for farming . Using hellwardens etc for ias + fcr + little magic boost.

This post was edited by Junglist69 on Jun 23 2026 05:03am
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Jun 23 2026 05:14am
Great insight , thanks m8!!! Heard that warlock has better frames with sword. Any chance you could tell us breakpoints for botd/death in colossus blade/sword?
If death can hit any decent frames it may be a great build with an amp demon. No gface and stuff needed , allowing for higher fcr breakpoints for farming . Using hellwardens etc for ias + fcr + little magic boost.


eth death is absolutely destroying p8 trav - according to the data he posted you can hit max frames with a base 10 attack speed weapon (decapitator, colossus sword, glorious axe, cryptic axe) with only fanat demon + 29 ias on gear. that's assuming you're running hex purge. without hex purge add +30 on gear for max frames
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Jun 23 2026 06:52am
eth death is absolutely destroying p8 trav - according to the data he posted you can hit max frames with a base 10 attack speed weapon (decapitator, colossus sword, glorious axe, cryptic axe) with only fanat demon + 29 ias on gear. that's assuming you're running hex purge. without hex purge add +30 on gear for max frames


Well, since hex purge is a cleave synergy while giving ias, you should run it for sure…

But can you guys tell me why war pike can hit faster frames at 12 while the rest is capped at 13? Is it just cause of beeing a spear?

Is there any list of max frames depending on weapon type?

Heard swords can hit faster frames than axes/polearms but can’t find any good source to confirm.

Not sure about fana. Would love to run holy frost on demon to proc amp more consistent. Maybe that would be stronger with the right gear still hitting maxframes

This post was edited by Junglist69 on Jun 23 2026 06:54am
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