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Jun 22 2026 10:22am
Some voices from Christian leadership in Lebanon regarding this memorandum of understanding -
https://www.mtv.com.lb/amp/details/1709748

https://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/320855-geagea-urges-vance-to-separate-lebanon-from-iran

TLDR , the Christians in Lebanon are begging to the US to drop this Iran-Lebanon-USA triangle.
And in other words, to Israel to keep pounding the hezbollah.

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Jun 22 2026 11:17pm
Ben Gvir talk like Trump only he doesnt have any power to do anything.


when your own national security minister calls for genocide and your argument is he has no power you fail to address the issue. Hitler didnt have any power to begin with either
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Jun 23 2026 12:03am
when your own national security minister calls for genocide and your argument is he has no power you fail to address the issue. Hitler didnt have any power to begin with either


He’s the 'National Security' Minister, but honestly? He’s completely irrelevant and a total joke. Everyone in Israel just calls him the 'Minister of Pita' because the only thing he actually managed to change was limiting the fresh bakeries for terrorists in prison. He has zero operational control over the IDF or the actual management of this war.
But let's look at your comparison. Yes, Hitler didn't have any power to begin with either. But you know who does have massive, heavily subsidized military power right now? Hamas and Hezbollah. And unlike democratic politicians playing to a radical base for votes, they don't hide their intentions for a single second.
This isn't a territorial dispute or a political disagreement. Their charters and their actions make it undeniably clear: they simply want to massacre Jews. If you want to talk about genocidal ideology backed by actual rockets, tunnels, and thousands of armed fighters, look at the organizations sitting on our borders, not a loudmouth politician who is a punchline in his own country.
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Jun 23 2026 02:38am
He’s the 'National Security' Minister, but honestly? He’s completely irrelevant and a total joke. Everyone in Israel just calls him the 'Minister of Pita' because the only thing he actually managed to change was limiting the fresh bakeries for terrorists in prison. He has zero operational control over the IDF or the actual management of this war.
But let's look at your comparison. Yes, Hitler didn't have any power to begin with either. But you know who does have massive, heavily subsidized military power right now? Hamas and Hezbollah. And unlike democratic politicians playing to a radical base for votes, they don't hide their intentions for a single second.
This isn't a territorial dispute or a political disagreement. Their charters and their actions make it undeniably clear: they simply want to massacre Jews. If you want to talk about genocidal ideology backed by actual rockets, tunnels, and thousands of armed fighters, look at the organizations sitting on our borders, not a loudmouth politician who is a punchline in his own country.


Your prime minister doesn't have any power either right? Didn't he say that the palestinians were amalek. That calls for all women and children to be murdered. That's genocidal
Didn't your defence minister Israel Katz say that he was fine starving the population and the second sinwar would bring about the total destruction of gaza. Genocidal - is he also powerless?
One country has illegally occupied another for generations upon generations and upheld apartheid like standards and then you justify their murder when they revolt calling them genocidal. They might be, but why are they genocidal? Could it perhaps be that the one country with a hidden nuclear program, with genocidal maniacs in power is also somewhat to blame in the unfolding catastrophe...
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Jun 23 2026 05:27am
What did Guterres say after the Hamas attack?
Nothing happens in a vacuum.

He earned a shit storm of criticism over it - but unfortunately he is correct.
Hatred doesn't spontaneously happen.
It is carefully cultivated over generations.

Israel is harvesting what it sowed.
With fatal results on both sides.

Until this is recognised and actively worked against - nothing will change unfortunately
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Jun 23 2026 05:27am
Your prime minister doesn't have any power either right? Didn't he say that the palestinians were amalek. That calls for all women and children to be murdered. That's genocidal
Didn't your defence minister Israel Katz say that he was fine starving the population and the second sinwar would bring about the total destruction of gaza. Genocidal - is he also powerless?
One country has illegally occupied another for generations upon generations and upheld apartheid like standards and then you justify their murder when they revolt calling them genocidal. They might be, but why are they genocidal? Could it perhaps be that the one country with a hidden nuclear program, with genocidal maniacs in power is also somewhat to blame in the unfolding catastrophe...


You are grabbing isolated, out-of-context soundbites to avoid facing the reality of who we were actually fighting.
First, Netanyahu never called the Palestinians 'Amalek.' He simply quoted a passage from the Torah regarding our eternal enemies who attack the weak and innocent, explicitly referencing Hamas after the October 7th massacres.
Second, Israel Katz’s job at the time was to put maximum pressure on Hamas while thousands of rockets were actively raining down on our heads and our people were held captive.

Finally, you are twisting yourself into knots to defend a terrorist organization that has clearly stated its goals from day one. Hamas has never hidden its intentions; they openly declared they would destroy Israel, they executed exactly what they said they would do, and they still state to this day that they would do it all over again given the chance. You can keep twisting rhetoric, but the operational facts show an army fighting a fanatical death cult, not a population.



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Jun 23 2026 05:29am
What did Guterres say after the Hamas attack?
Nothing happens in a vacuum.

He earned a shit storm of criticism over it - but unfortunately he is correct.
Hatred doesn't spontaneously happen.
It is carefully cultivated over generations.

Israel is harvesting what it sowed.
With fatal results on both sides.

Until this is recognised and actively worked against - nothing will change unfortunately

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If hatred is 'carefully cultivated,' then look at where it is actually being sowed. It is sowed in UNRWA classrooms that teach jihadi martyrdom, in a Hamas charter that explicitly calls for the murder of Jews worldwide, and by a leadership that openly admits they want a permanent state of war. Hamas didn’t attack to 'end an occupation' they overthrew the Palestinian Authority in 2007 and turned Gaza into a fortress of tunnels and missile pads instead of building a functioning state.
Israel didn't 'sow' the slaughter of its own citizens at a music festival. What Israel did was dismantle the illusions of the West. For years, international observers claimed that if we just managed the conflict and provided economic aid, Hamas would moderate. October 7th proved that fanatical religious jihad cannot be appeased or managed.
When you blame the victim of a genocidal attack for 'harvesting what it sowed,' you aren't providing deep historical context; you are just providing a sophisticated excuse for unadulterated savagery.
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Jun 23 2026 06:04am
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If hatred is 'carefully cultivated,' then look at where it is actually being sowed. It is sowed in UNRWA classrooms that teach jihadi martyrdom, in a Hamas charter that explicitly calls for the murder of Jews worldwide, and by a leadership that openly admits they want a permanent state of war. Hamas didn’t attack to 'end an occupation' they overthrew the Palestinian Authority in 2007 and turned Gaza into a fortress of tunnels and missile pads instead of building a functioning state.
Israel didn't 'sow' the slaughter of its own citizens at a music festival. What Israel did was dismantle the illusions of the West. For years, international observers claimed that if we just managed the conflict and provided economic aid, Hamas would moderate. October 7th proved that fanatical religious jihad cannot be appeased or managed.
When you blame the victim of a genocidal attack for 'harvesting what it sowed,' you aren't providing deep historical context; you are just providing a sophisticated excuse for unadulterated savagery.


I refuse to believe that you lack the cognitive abilities to understand it takes two to tango.
BOTH sides are to blame.
Both sides have religious extremism. The orthodox Jews are as fucked up in my understanding as jihadists. Completely insane.

To account for your country's mistakes is the first step.
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Jun 23 2026 06:41am
I refuse to believe that you lack the cognitive abilities to understand it takes two to tango.
BOTH sides are to blame.
Both sides have religious extremism. The orthodox Jews are as fucked up in my understanding as jihadists. Completely insane.

To account for your country's mistakes is the first step.


Equating the two is childish. It is obvious that only one side openly chants for the death of the other. The only mistake Israel made is underestimating the suicidal empathy of those on the left that sympathize with terrorist groups.
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Jun 23 2026 07:20am
Equating the two is childish. It is obvious that only one side openly chants for the death of the other. The only mistake Israel made is underestimating the suicidal empathy of those on the left that sympathize with terrorist groups.


suuuuure. make it a left and right thing.
or even better - make it an apartheid issue.
Whites of Israel -> life has value
Everyone else over there -> little to no value.

Gosh and then we are all so suprised no1 likes u :cry:

E: And yes! There certainly is an issue with uninformed bystanders in a global audience that tend to root for the underdog that doesn't have 1 of the worlds finest military and secret service.
I do not chant for palastine. But I understand that all the injustice Palastinians are facing it's a perfect breeding ground for terrorism.

You wanna stop terrorism?
Work on the root causes instead of chopping off another head of the hydra.

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