how's the lister damage compare to spearwoman?

Lister has about the same HP as a unique spearwoman. A non-unique has about half that.
Anything that's 1-shotting a bound demon is going to one-shot any bound demon you could have



Its just the same damage but no jab, so slower attacks
Lister notably has 0 regen so he's actually less tanky than other capped HP uniques, his minions are tankier than him but they can't have useful affixes
He's more or less the same as an urdar except 0x regen instead of 2x regen, poison immune (which doesn't matter when all poison does is disable regen, which he doesn't have)
and I guess his upside is that he's got rather high attack rating compared to other mobs
Except spearwomen have +% ar on jab and power/cold strike, which puts their AR higher than lister's anyway

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 22 2026 09:48am

lower, since no Jab

spearwoman - best dmg, usable at 1 hard point
Lister - best tanking (but requires 20 hard points) .. he also holds aggro the best
Urdar - I guess best for tanking at 1 point?

Lister has better resistances (including phys), hp regen etc.
I assure you nothing is one-shotting Lister (though he can still die to a tier5 ~conc+AD herald pack, but slower)


I'm also not sure where your info is from that they have same HP?
patch notes said max demon hp is now capped depending on demon type and I'm sure Listers cap is higher than an A5 spearwoman

I've used both plenty post-patch and Lister is very clearly much tankier

Spearwomen only have 33% dr / 2 regen, lister has 50% / 0 regen, urdars have 55% / 4 regen or 75% / 3 regen
Spearwoman type is capped at 80190 in P8, Lister is capped at 121500 (hephasto same cap), since base HP for their types is capped at 12540+660*PX for spearwomen, 19000+1000*PX for superuniques, then 450% scaling is applied afterwards, then blood oath at the start of the game, then battle orders, all multiplicative. The elemental resistances are mostly irrelevant since they all get +77%ish from blood oath, so they're all immune to fire/cold/light, though only lister is immune to poison, which is irrelevant because all poison does is disable regen and he has 0 regen. Without stone skin its 49% dr for spearwoman, 71/91% urdar, 66% lister
Spearwomen have 5957-8564 base HP in TZ96 and 11914-17128 for uniques, so it depends on the RNG roll (which you really can't see) that they'll have 53613-77076 base HP, just below the 80190 cap
Even a 1 point blood oath build gets ~1205% hp oath and 89% bo, so around 660k-950k hp for a trash mob lancer, 1.3m-1.9m for a unique lancer, I'm not 100% sure on urdar cap but I think its around the same ~2-3 million that it will reach whether normal or unique, and 3m for lister

The point of all this is that these numbers are astronomically high and if anything could one-shot a bound demon, its just going to kill a 50% tankier bound demon before you react anyway.
I leveled all the way from 89 to 98 with a trash mob lancer and the lancer never died a single time (nor did I), then I ate it at 98 to try to farm a unique lancer replacement, gave up and got another trash mob lancer and finished leveling to 99 and it hasn't died once.
There is nothing in the game capable of killing any of these bound demons if you don't just go afk with them tanking 30 might+conc+cursed enemies for 30 seconds, and if you did, no monster would be tanky enough because amp damage gives the full -100% even if you get a stone skin immune.

Lister winds up being more vulnerable and less resilient simply because he's not regenerating back the HP you sap from blood boil, which makes him a liability if you're incautious or spamming heavily against a herald. An urdar is pretty much identical to lister except with 2.44% HP/s to offset blood boil even without engorge, and adds some crushing blow not that it really matters. Same movement speed, same AI, same stun attack, same size, same damage, same attack speed. Though yes lister has some extra AR, not that it matters with conviction aura.

100% agree, the regen is nice.

Colossal ancients can and will one shot (maybe a quick 2 shot) the spear woman (but an urdar survives well)

this might be why everyone thinks lisster had regen, i thought so as well

Normally, Lister does not have standard monster regeneration.
There is a known bug/mechanic involving deactivated Super Uniques (off-screen, TPing away, seal-pop style behavior) where they can begin regenerating extremely quickly. Players specifically mention Baal wave monsters and Lister in these discussions.
This is why many players experience Lister as having crazy regen even though the data tables show no innate regen

this thread has been very educational... lol

This post was edited by Evilweanie on Jun 22 2026 11:43am

Lister is 10x better than even the best Urdar. Maybe it is my imagination as I haven't looked at the frame data, but he seems to attack much faster than Urdars, and have less wait time between attacks. Less so than even spearlady from my observations.

Does blood oath work for the bound demon or just tainted? I've seen conflicting information.




Trying out 1 pt blood oath at 94 before maxing engorge to hopefully make my p8 spearwoman live longer. I don't want to hunt another one, lost my last one when I died to a t5 herald siren pack

an enemy Lister does not have regen
Does that actually apply to your bound Lister? maxroll D2 planner lists your bound monster Lister as having hp regen

either way I dont think the regen matters much for mid-combat survival, its too small % to matter, especially compared to an Engorge heal (nearly full hp bar instantly from 1 Engorge)
Hephasto is also supposed to have 0 regen and my Hephastos have never felt like a worse tank than spearwomen


but personal experience has definitely been that Lister is tankier than any other demon (except maybe that uber den Pitlord that can have many immunities), its rare to ever see its hp bar even move at all