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Jun 21 2026 05:22pm
If nothing crazy happens with balance changes next ladder, can this build compete for a rank 1 finish?


Not sure on methods people use for power leveling. You really want an enigma, infinity, cta and sunder for this to be online at full speed. Not day 1-2 of ladder, when a cold sorc can do TZ tombs and skip immunes. I assume a coordinated setup would always use a sorc for levels 90+ and unless you've got a dupe/import exploit you can level faster than you can get HRs
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Jun 21 2026 05:27pm
TZ affixes are only applied to normal mobs. They aren't applied to uniques, champions, superuniques or minions. Minions can display non-functional affixes including those they would inherit from their unique, but they won't actually work.
TZ affixes are only locked in on bound demons when you bind a normal mob with level 5+ bind demon to upgrade it to a unique, and level 20+ to add aura enchanted (soft points both cases).
And I think the cursed affix on uniques may malfunction if they are bound in a game with a cursed TZ affix anyway, not entirely sure about that, but no reason to try to search for cursed TZ games to bind them anyway

uniques are the same in all TZ affixes, so the only thing that matters is what affixes they naturally spawn with. And you've got a 1/4 chance they'll get cursed and 1/7 chance the aura you roll on them will be holy freeze (and 1/4 chance they'll already be aura enchanted, with 1/7 chance it will be holy freeze otherwise any other aura means they can't get holy freeze). So all you can do is either bind a cursed unique spearwoman- already fairly hard to find- and get a 1/7 chance it rolls the right aura, or get extremely lucky and find the 1/28 chance natural cursed + holy freeze spearwoman. In which case she'll only have 1 other random affix, the aura enchantment is not optimal.


don't forget lightning enchanted can sub for holy freeze for amp coverage, especially with blood boil which releases the bolts which then proc amp. hf is quite nice, but I wouldn't be opposed wifeswapping my fire enchanted hf cursed spearbae for a lightning enchanted conc cursed version. Even without conc, she still gets the job done.
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don't forget lightning enchanted can sub for holy freeze for amp coverage, especially with blood boil which releases the bolts which then proc amp. hf is quite nice, but I wouldn't be opposed wifeswapping my fire enchanted hf cursed spearbae for a lightning enchanted conc cursed version. Even without conc, she still gets the job done.


did you say wifeswapping? :drool:
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did you say wifeswapping? :drool:


well, technically waifuswapping, but yea more or less
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Jun 21 2026 08:24pm
don't forget lightning enchanted can sub for holy freeze for amp coverage, especially with blood boil which releases the bolts which then proc amp. hf is quite nice, but I wouldn't be opposed wifeswapping my fire enchanted hf cursed spearbae for a lightning enchanted conc cursed version. Even without conc, she still gets the job done.


Its a nice bonus on top of holy freeze but not at all a replacement. Most of the time is spent teleporting around not casting blood boil, and even when you do use blood boil triggering bolts, its often 1-2 extra hits per cast with monsters only on one side of your demon. Whereas holy freeze can be hitting ~10-20 monsters per tick even in fairly sparse areas, for ~40-64% proc per tick, compared to boiling for ~5-10% per cast.

Its important to remember that all the auras are fairly marginal dps bonuses, but amplify damage 200-300% multiplier. If a bound demon already has ~1200% ed from bind/mastery/extra strong/might, adding +270% from conc puts it at +20.7% overall
Proccing amp is critically important to your demon damage output AND your blood boil, so you'd be better off with a cursed + holy freeze + lightning enchanted demon than a demon that had higher DPS but less chance to proc
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Jun 21 2026 08:28pm
Well I don't deny HF has better proc rate for amp, but if you are casting death mark at all on packs, you will notice the amp is just as reliable and just as fast, while if you are fighting heralds or immunes, you will also notice a significant dps increase for your demon from conc. In any case, it is just a 2nd place prize for the most part for those who are having bad rolls trying to get HF + cursed, which should save some time getting a good enough demon to handle the job as a whole.
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Jun 21 2026 09:29pm
About some math on the mana / teleport side
125 fcr with level 15/16/17/18 teleport costs 27.8/25/22.2/19.4 mana per second. The shako builds get level 17 teleport with a +3 staff, the coven+maras get 18 teleport. So usually 22.2 mana/s usage
You regen 1/120 of max mana per second, multiply by % regen, so total usage would be something like;
spam duration = maxmana / (usage - (1+regen)*(maxmana/120))

My ladder build had 721 max mana, 49% regen, 22.2/s usage, so ~54 seconds of spamming, easy enough to verify by teleporting around cold plains.
And honestly, that was very bearable and low usage, any time spent walking and picking up items regenerated a fair leeway. I did have to use a column of mana pots, but rarely, and not at all burdensome
Getting fully infinite mana is really overkill, there's no reason to reach a point where you can' drain mana teleporting as the regen gets close to usage. You will pick up some items, click on stuff, stop and cast some blood boils, use doors/waypoints, etc
I feel like if you hit ~90-120+ seconds to drain, that's where mana might as well be infinite. You spend 2 seconds picking up an item, you offset about 3 seconds of teleporting
EX say you have 1200 max mana, 65% regen thanks to a perfect obsession and a crafted slot. That's 210.5 seconds to spam through your mana. You'd be teleporting around 3.5 minutes without a single pot. There are no areas in the game large enough for you to do it continuously.

I think hitting ~1000 max mana and just obsession + magefist regen is enough that anything beyond it is overkill
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Jun 21 2026 09:37pm
If nothing crazy happens with balance changes next ladder, can this build compete for a rank 1 finish?


it'll be tough, the build really isn't great until sunder, infinity and enigma whereas sorc only needs infinity and sunder to get going.
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Jun 22 2026 03:12am
my spear girl just got 1 shotted by t5 concentrated aura cow pack , :(

guess making her to tank cow herald t5 is a pretty bad idea
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Jun 22 2026 09:19am
my spear girl just got 1 shotted by t5 concentrated aura cow pack , :(

guess making her to tank cow herald t5 is a pretty bad idea

this is why I generally go for Lister if Bind is 20 hard points.
Very reliable tank vs all mobs, even after patch. Even a non TZ one

and spearwoman - for when Bind is 1

This post was edited by Ph0en1X on Jun 22 2026 09:20am
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