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Jun 19 2026 08:24pm
Let me stop you right there bud. I already explained why people like Caesar are likely to be real while Adam, Eve and the talking serpent were not.
You are still not getting it and continue to treat magic and non magic as if they are the same.

Answer this question do you believe in Zoroastra or Osiris or thousands of other gods that also rely on trust?

No ofc not, the only difference between you and me is you don't believe in 99.99% of other gods while I don't believe in 100%.
If you add one more god to your non belief pile you would be exactly where I am.

This renders your entire argument about trust/hearsay void because magical beings were never proven and cannot be taken on trust alone. If you wish to trust in one magical god you need to trust them all otherwise you are just irrationally cherrypicking beliefs based on subjective feelings.


Let me know when you have created the respective threads for Plato, Aristotle, Caesar, and Homer.
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Jun 19 2026 09:13pm
So if someone believes in fairytales (Spiderman, Bible or Harry Potter) it automatically makes them true? Absurd argument

Also unironically there are some small groups of people who actually believe in Harry Potter and the wizard world. Witchcraft is a thing.


no they dont
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Jun 19 2026 11:16pm
no they dont


Let me know when you are ready to apologize and return to the shadow realm.

https://hobanvisor.news/hogwarts-is-realill-prove-it/



Let me know when you have created the respective threads for Plato, Aristotle, Caesar, and Homer.


Let me know when you finished reading my counter argument. You have nothing at this point but kindergarten logic.
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Jun 19 2026 11:53pm
So if someone believes in fairytales (Spiderman, Bible or Harry Potter) it automatically makes them true? Absurd argument

Also unironically there are some small groups of people who actually believe in Harry Potter and the wizard world. Witchcraft is a thing.


I never said anything about the guide being too vague.
I said the path and pages people reference when using the bible will be individual.
Pretty simple to understand.

I also didn't imply the bible is metaphoric/allegorical like Shakespeare or LoTR. I said some aspect of it incorporate suggestiveness but not the whole thing.

I'm not making any arguments for magic either. Never did I mention the word magic.

Remember also when you are talking about the word 'lying' that it must imply a deliberate intent to deceive. And that deception must result in some sort of loss vs gain in order to claim justice. So explain to me when it comes to the bible what type of harm or loss is it causing to you specifically? I don't think anyone is forcing you to read it here you are reading it by choice and you seem to enjoy engaging in conversation about it. So what's the issue here?

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Let me know when you are ready to apologize and return to the shadow realm.

https://hobanvisor.news/hogwarts-is-realill-prove-it/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ausSnXFI3Os



Let me know when you finished reading my counter argument. You have nothing at this point but kindergarten logic.


o hel no not watching 30 minutes of play pre tend for clicks. you find one play time actor.
lol now we know what stuff u watching :)

I never said anything about the guide being too vague.
I said the path and pages people reference when using the bible will be individual.
Pretty simple to understand.

I also didn't imply the bible is metaphoric/allegorical like Shakespeare or LoTR. I said some aspect of it incorporate suggestiveness but not the whole thing.

I'm not making any arguments for magic either. Never did I mention the word magic.

Remember also when you are talking about the word 'lying' that it must imply a deliberate intent to deceive. And that deception must result in some sort of loss vs gain in order to claim justice. So explain to me when it comes to the bible what type of harm or loss is it causing to you specifically? I don't think anyone is forcing you to read it here you are reading it by choice and you seem to enjoy engaging in conversation about it. So what's the issue here?


he doesnt read any of it, but somehow he is an authority on all of it
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Jun 20 2026 04:52am
Let me know when you are ready to apologize and return to the shadow realm.

https://hobanvisor.news/hogwarts-is-realill-prove-it/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ausSnXFI3Os



Let me know when you finished reading my counter argument. You have nothing at this point but kindergarten logic.


Looks like you can't provide the receipts for Caesar.

What a shame. You can't even provide this for something you believe in. Looks like Jesus and God's word remains the greatest truth.
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Jun 20 2026 05:28am
o hel no not watching 30 minutes of play pre tend for clicks. you find one play time actor.
lol now we know what stuff u watching :)



he doesnt read any of it, but somehow he is an authority on all of it


Gave you 2 links bud for proof that some people believe in Harry potter time to admit you were wrong.

I never said anything about the guide being too vague.
I said the path and pages people reference when using the bible will be individual.
Pretty simple to understand.

I also didn't imply the bible is metaphoric/allegorical like Shakespeare or LoTR. I said some aspect of it incorporate suggestiveness but not the whole thing.

I'm not making any arguments for magic either. Never did I mention the word magic.

Remember also when you are talking about the word 'lying' that it must imply a deliberate intent to deceive. And that deception must result in some sort of loss vs gain in order to claim justice. So explain to me when it comes to the bible what type of harm or loss is it causing to you specifically? I don't think anyone is forcing you to read it here you are reading it by choice and you seem to enjoy engaging in conversation about it. So what's the issue here?


I know what you said, I added bible is vague because its language and words don't yield a clear unified conclusion hence why there are thousands interpretations especially amongst different sects of christianity.
Bible is a magic story with a being that resurrects himself and other people from the dead etc. If you believe it to be real you are implicitly talking about magic.
Metaphors are core elements in suggestive language and figurative expression lol.

You completely ignored my dismantling of your weak street directory analogy because you are not an honest person who will acknowledge illogical position you put yourself in.
Now you are changing the subject entirely and asking what harm/loss does the bible pose lol. I'll take this as your submission as you clearly not here for an honest discussion and being open. This thread was your opportunity to prove christianity is not fake and you failed.

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Jun 20 2026 07:05am
Gave you 2 links bud for proof that some people believe in Harry potter time to admit you were wrong.



I know what you said, I added bible is vague because its language and words don't yield a clear unified conclusion hence why there are thousands interpretations especially amongst different sects of christianity.
Bible is a magic story with a being that resurrects himself and other people from the dead etc. If you believe it to be real you are implicitly talking about magic.
Metaphors are core elements in suggestive language and figurative expression lol.

You completely ignored my dismantling of your weak street directory analogy because you are not an honest person who will acknowledge illogical position you put yourself in.
Now you are changing the subject entirely and asking what harm/loss does the bible pose lol. I'll take this as your submission as you clearly not here for an honest discussion and being open. This thread was your opportunity to prove christianity is not fake and you failed.


Are you upset that your fake Caesar never existed?
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Jun 20 2026 08:21am
Gave you 2 links bud for proof that some people believe in Harry potter time to admit you were wrong.


video of dorky desperation........... typical abusive disingenuous nature of a 'atheist
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Jun 20 2026 08:44am
Gave you 2 links bud for proof that some people believe in Harry potter time to admit you were wrong.



I know what you said, I added bible is vague because its language and words don't yield a clear unified conclusion hence why there are thousands interpretations especially amongst different sects of christianity.
Bible is a magic story with a being that resurrects himself and other people from the dead etc. If you believe it to be real you are implicitly talking about magic.
Metaphors are core elements in suggestive language and figurative expression lol.

You completely ignored my dismantling of your weak street directory analogy because you are not an honest person who will acknowledge illogical position you put yourself in.
Now you are changing the subject entirely and asking what harm/loss does the bible pose lol. I'll take this as your submission as you clearly not here for an honest discussion and being open. This thread was your opportunity to prove christianity is not fake and you failed.


How would you know that it doesn't yield a clear unified conclusion?
You haven't even read it to 'conclude'.
How can you claim it's a magical story if you haven't read it all either?

And no I'm not implicitly talking about magic.
And no I didn't put myself in an illogical position. I simply do not think you are being rational in your examination.

And yes we change subject. Human life is ever-changing. This whole thread the subject matter changes. What is your point?

And no it's not a submission. It's an honest discussion. Submission requires judgement. In order to place judgement I would have to have broken some sort of law. Unless you are talking about submission as in I'm submitting a document or something?

I'm here to converse with you that Christianity is real to me. That is not the definition of a fail. If it's not real to you then you are entitled to your own opinion or you simply aren't a Christian. What concerns me is your angst towards Christians. I'm trying to figure out what it is specifically in your past or present that is causing you to act like this?
I'll ask it again so you have a chance to give me some clarity: can you explain to me when it comes to the bible what type of harm or loss is it causing to you specifically?

This post was edited by Insein on Jun 20 2026 08:50am
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