I’ve never in my life been on the side of a majority.

Every possible deal made is to Iran’s benefit, not ours. We have the means of preventing them from acquiring nuclear weapons in absolutely any circumstance. We prefer peace, we do not require it.

We absolutely require it.

We do not have unlimited ammo. We are also targeted by Russia and China. Do you think this would play out well if we ran low on ammo taking on Iran while China is stockpiling oil and ammo?

If Trump thought he could render their submission using bombs, he would have done it. He knows he is cornered and looking for any way out.

This whole deal is an absolute disgrace, and does not guarantee any type of compliance that the JCPOA didn't already do.

More dumb questions. They aren’t moving a fridge. Every bit of the processes involved will be recorded meticulously, fkin obviously… cmon man.

And, again, literally everyone in the world agrees that Iran can not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, so yes, our allies can be trysted on this matter.

"Our allies can be trusted on this matter"

Then how did they enrich to 60%?

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Well, no deal has been finalized so this is again fairly speculative. I find it incredibly unlikely that the new deal will sunset as jcpoa did tho

when the JCPOA was in force and being observed (roughly 2016–2018), Iran did not build a nuclear bomb, did not enrich uranium to weapons-grade levels, and remained under extensive international monitoring. The IAEA repeatedly reported that Iran was complying with the agreement's nuclear restrictions. Donald Trump came along in 2018 and threw that Deal under a bus because it was a signature policy achievement from Obama, and Trump hates Obama and has set about dismantling all of Obama's achievements. France and the UK tried to maintain the deal but ultimately they toed the line with the US after the US threatened them with secondary sanctions. i.e. the US told the UK and France that it would sanction them if they tried to maintain the deal with Iran. Its all very well documented. I mean this is not 50 years ago - we live in the information age where almost everything is discoverable, by anyone with patience and the will to look.

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Iran is not our ally… what are you even trying to say here? I like that you think this is a conversation-ending point. It’s not even a point at all.

Iran just held off our attacks and in some ways gained the upper hand in future conflicts (specifically preventing them by attacking gulf infrastructure) without nuclear arms, and they'll be left with all of those conventional weapons. but nuclear is still the highest objective?

i'd argue they just proved they dont even need nuclear, they proved every single important target in the region needs massive amounts of interceptors but only Israel has them. and that when it gets hot again the USA will be happy to remove the interceptors the gulf nations do have to move them to israel.

even through Gaza most of the Gulf nations looked favorable to re-sign the abraham accords, Trump just asked them to again and no takers.

we lost the trust of more strategically important gulf allies than israel, outspent the iranians at least 100 to 1, didnt change the regime, didnt take launch platforms out enough, and have a shaky deal to get back uranium the Iranians now realize is likely too much trouble to bother with and they dont need.

much success.

We outspent them yeah, but we did much more damage obviously. And now we’ve sold them into debt to rebuild all that infrastructure. This has been called highly predatory economic warfare when we’ve done it in the past lol I like that suddenly this time it’s a loss for us.

But yes, to answer your question, obviously preventing the nuclear option has always been the highest priority.

As I’ve said repeatedly tho we also got some great bonuses out of the conflict. Uae out of opec and killed a lot of the worst people in the world.

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