Lol seriously, why don’t you ask google these things before you make wild, always incorrect assumptions?

JCPOA was an agreement between Iran and all the major world powers. It was not an agreement between Iran and America. Without America in the deal, Iran was still bound by the deal to the EU, the UK, Canada, Russia, etc.

The deal still existed for them.

Edit: most of the other stuff you said is also wrong. Jcpoa DID lift the sanctions and unfreeze their assets. Why do you feel the need to guess?

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Jun 18 2026 09:51am

Fair, it did exist, but it also didn't. Without the backbone of America to back it up, what makes you think that Iran is going to adhere to it? It was literally us who headed it. How does that look when the literal leaders drop out?

So yea, technically it did exist, but you cannot sit there and say that any part of America can be pissed they broke the agreement when we literally dropped out.




I'm not guessing, I know more about this than you do.

Yea, it did lift sanctions and unfroze SOME assets. Trump is LITERALLY DOING THE SAME THING AND GIVING THEM MORE UNFROZE ASSETS.

So please sit down, adults are talking.

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Jun 18 2026 09:56am

you literally said all the USA has to do is watch to make sure they dont dig up the uranium, but you're calling a much wider war in which we expended countless missiles and interceptors as well as a naval blockade a "success".

we could have just watched the mountain and prevented them from digging up the only important thing they now need to turn over. its like spending 100$ for a candy bar and then celebrating because its sweet tasting.

Lol America has reserved the right to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons by any means necessary.

Jcpoa’s stipulation that Iran not enrich past the needs of their power plants was set to expire in 2025. This sunsetting was overly optimistic, Obama wrongly assumed that Iran would have neutralized itself as a threat by moving into the international community by this time.

He was wrong, they are still a threat and must still be prevented from acquiring nuclear weapons by any means necessary.

That was a worst-case-scenario I gave you. It could be easily accomplished but it runs into problems of public perception. AOC er some other idiot might become president on the promise of not maintaining a forever war with Iran, even in such a limited capacity.

We achieved a better result it seems.

How so? Because Israel says so?

The JCPOA (2015): The Obama administration utilized diplomacy to permanently restrict Iran's nuclear pathways, enforcing robust inspections and a mandate that Iran never acquire a nuclear weapon
The Trump administration withdrew from the JCPOA, utilizing heavy economic sanctions to press Iran on its nuclear ambitions and regional activities

News flash- Trump canceled this because it was signed by Obama.

This post was edited by said_aouita on Jun 18 2026 10:09am

So, Trump did nothing his 1st term to engage in a new agreement, other than drop out and "hope for the best"?

Every argument you have literally has something that Trump has done to counterargue your own argument. You are not going to win this debate against logic and common sense. Even a majority of conservatives are raging at this deal. Your own side.

Because Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is an unacceptable proposition. Again, everyone agrees on this except apparently you.

You must have also missed the part in the agreement that Trump signed that says the U.S. will not be involved in the monitoring of Iran's nuclear programs. U.S. will not lead the oversight of their neutralization of their nuclear programs.

So how exactly does that ensure America is preventing Iran from having nuclear weapons if we are not leading the oversight other than "trust me, bro" from the IAEA?

edit - This is also a direct criticism of the JCPOA that also did not have enough oversight from America.

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Jun 18 2026 10:20am