tbh your shift from smug know-it-all to clearly petulant has been fun. but rest assured that just because US political will broke first, you also didnt have the will longterm to see this through either.

its like we entered a 2 man pizza eating contest, and the USA called it quits about 10 bites before Israel did, but there's 8 slices left.

it was always going to end this way, make peace with it. blow off some steam, maybe vaporize a few villages in Lebanon or destroy a few churches in the West Bank.

Tell it to Chamberlain

Its a big fail.

Big enough to lose my vote in him.

He should have bombed Kharg and their power infrastructure.

i wouldnt have responded either tbh, it gotta be a tough week for you.

The previous Iranian regime was more willing to work with the US then this one btw. In fact, the previous regime WORKED with the US, and had a DEAL with the US, which was working for years. It was not just with the US, but with multiple countries. This is the DEAL which Donald Trump BROKE.

The region is now more unstable then before the US attacked Iran and it is not difficult to suggest that the region will be more unstable for the next 10 years as a consequence of the last 2-3 years.

However, you are not wrong, one sides does not have to win and one side does not have to lose. The US attacked the country of Iran, Iran did not attack the country of the United States. The attack by the US led to consequences and now the US has decided to stop attacking. That is not a win or lose. Its a disengagement. Basically criminals broke into a house, killed dad, smashed some stuff up, and now they are leaving because they overstayed their welcome.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 18 2026 09:18am

They’ve agreed to turn over their enriched uranium.

Sanction relief relies on this, just as it did under jcpoa.

The USA will not pay Iran 300bn, the gulf states will raise an investment fund of this amount. It is an investment fund, as far as the information that has been released suggests, it is not free money. This also relies on the HEU being turned over/destroyed.


The main purpose of this conflict was always to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. That was also the purpose of the sanctions that are being lifted.

Mission success.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Jun 18 2026 09:32am

So literally what the JCPOA accomplished that Dumpy tore up.



Literally false. There is no wording that says the U.S. will not take part in this. So you're incorrect.





Again, the JCPOA already accomplished this without giving them $300 BN, $27 BILLION in assets unfrozen, lifted sanctions, and the literal knowledge they can now use the strait as leverage.





Mission failure. The U.S. definitely lost on this deal.

You seem to be in the minority, even amongst conservatives, that this is a success. Maybe actually look into it more than reading some simple bullet points or taking Trump's word. Looks like he is already backtracking and putting the blame on Vance

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Jun 18 2026 09:38am

The primary stipulation of Iran’s “DEAL with the US, which was working for years. It was not just with the US, but with multiple countries. This is the DEAL which Donald Trump BROKE.” Was that they would not enrich uranium past 3.67%. They enriched to 60% while Biden was president.

They broke the deal.

How did they break the deal when there was no fucking deal?!?!?! TRUMP TORE IT UP, REMEMBER?!?!



So how tf can they break a deal that doesn't exist?!

JCPOA worked for a while, and then it didn’t. Again, Iran was enriching uranium FAR above the stipulations of jcpoa. It was not working any more.