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Jun 18 2026 12:54am
We've been over this you are performing mental gymnastics with modern english translations while ignoring Hebrew.

Notice how it's only unicorn/re'em in bible NOT "one horned Indian rhinoceros" You are once again making shit up on the fly.

Let's see proof of satyrs.

Inb4 dodge



Wtf is this minority report? Killing infants in the crib because you suspect they might be criminals in some long distant future has got to be your worst take yet.


Then let's see what The Bible says. Here is the commandment from God to wipe out the Amalekites:

1 Samuel 15:1-3 ESV

15 And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. 2 Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Saul disobeys by sparing King Agag and the sheep and of the oxen and of the fattened calves and the lambs. Read it here:

1 Samuel 15:8-9 ESV

8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive and devoted to destruction all the people with the edge of the sword. 9 But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep and of the oxen and of the fattened calves and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them. All that was despised and worthless they devoted to destruction.

Because of this disobedience, the Amalekites remained a threat to Israel. Let's see what the Amalekites did, DECADES later:

1 Samuel 30:1-2 ESV

30 Now when David and his men came to Ziklag on the third day, the Amalekites had made a raid against the Negeb and against Ziklag. They had overcome Ziklag and burned it with fire 2 and taken captive the women and all who were in it, both small and great. They killed no one, but carried them off and went their way.
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Jun 18 2026 01:33am
unicorn just means one horn animal. doesnt matter how much you like the fairytale horsey unicorn
i see you still insist on applying modern classification to an ancient culture.

maybe someday i will take a look at satyrs. in the mean time you cant even figure out "unicorn"

heres a article you wont read and you will pretend it never happened. but other people will read it and know
'Unicorn': Nothing Is What It Seems
Unicorns didn’t always look like that.
(last paragraph)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/unicorn-nothing-is-what-it-seems


Unicorn doesn't just mean one horned animal. It has multiple meanings the one in the bible is referring to a mythological creature.

Deuteronomy 33:17
In majesty he is like a firstborn bull; his horns are the horns of a a wild ox. With them he will gore the nations, even those at the ends of the earth. Such are the ten thousands of Ephraim; such are the thousands of Manasseh.”

Bible even describes what the horn look like.

Psalm 29:6 refers to a "young unicorn" using a term that implies a cow calf rather than a rhino calf

Job 39:9-10 asks if the unicorn will be willing to serve or abide by a crib, implying a domesticated or semi-domesticated bovine behavior, which is inconsistent with wild rhinos.

The Bible mentions 'unicorns' because older translations used the Latin word for 'one-horned animal' to translate the Hebrew 're’em.' However, 're’em' refers to a powerful wild ox (aurochs), not a rhino.



Also everyone got rather quiet when I mentioned satyrs. Its as if I was talking about Epstein's list or Voldermort. No defense there must of accepted that bible just straight up a fairy tale.
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Jun 18 2026 03:22am
Unicorn doesn't just mean one horned animal. It has multiple meanings the one in the bible is referring to a mythological creature.

Deuteronomy 33:17
In majesty he is like a firstborn bull; his horns are the horns of a a wild ox. With them he will gore the nations, even those at the ends of the earth. Such are the ten thousands of Ephraim; such are the thousands of Manasseh.”

Bible even describes what the horn look like.

Psalm 29:6 refers to a "young unicorn" using a term that implies a cow calf rather than a rhino calf

Job 39:9-10 asks if the unicorn will be willing to serve or abide by a crib, implying a domesticated or semi-domesticated bovine behavior, which is inconsistent with wild rhinos.

The Bible mentions 'unicorns' because older translations used the Latin word for 'one-horned animal' to translate the Hebrew 're’em.' However, 're’em' refers to a powerful wild ox (aurochs), not a rhino.



Also everyone got rather quiet when I mentioned satyrs. Its as if I was talking about Epstein's list or Voldermort. No defense there must of accepted that bible just straight up a fairy tale.


It translates to many different terms. Not just wild ox.
People are going to interpret it differently due to their geography, the timeframes, the language barriers etc.

There is not one universal agreement on the definition.

The word unicorn means a one-horned animal in the Christian scripture therefor we follow that definition. That doesn't mean the others are incorrect but you are not talking with Jewish people who speak Hebrew here you are talking with Christians who speak English.
The reason why alot of Christians gravitate towards the Rhino interpretation is because it's the only one-horned animal that uses the word unicorn in it's definition today: Rhinoceros unicornis. And this Rhino is present in this day and relatable to the biblical stories. Replace unicorn with rhino in the scripture it reads the same. Replace it with something like frog it wouldn't though.

Some of the specifics in scripture will change as time changes. However the scripture is written in a way that incorporates for that and the underlying message won't change as a result.
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Jun 18 2026 03:29am
Unicorn doesn't just mean one horned animal. It has multiple meanings the one in the bible is referring to a mythological creature.

Deuteronomy 33:17
In majesty he is like a firstborn bull; his horns are the horns of a a wild ox. With them he will gore the nations, even those at the ends of the earth. Such are the ten thousands of Ephraim; such are the thousands of Manasseh.”
Bible even describes what the horn look like.

Psalm 29:6 refers to a "young unicorn" using a term that implies a cow calf rather than a rhino calf

Job 39:9-10 asks if the unicorn will be willing to serve or abide by a crib, implying a domesticated or semi-domesticated bovine behavior, which is inconsistent with wild rhinos.

The Bible mentions 'unicorns' because older translations used the Latin word for 'one-horned animal' to translate the Hebrew 're’em.' However, 're’em' refers to a powerful wild ox (aurochs), not a rhino.



Also everyone got rather quiet when I mentioned satyrs. Its as if I was talking about Epstein's list or Voldermort. No defense there must of accepted that bible just straight up a fairy tale.


i will say did a better explanation then i can, ty

addone wont watch vid for answers. i invite the viewers to watch vid
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on other arguments concerning unicorns and the bible reference the video posted in https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&o=2660
quote #2670 that addone pretends doesnt exist


This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 18 2026 03:38am
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Jun 18 2026 04:10am
The unicorn can be both real and both mythological at the same time. The rhino is a real life unicorn, the Pegasus is a mythological one.

If you are referencing Jewish scripture in the Talmud the Re'em is described as a massive supernatural creature rather than a standard ox like you are suggesting. Ie: so big that it couldn't fit into Noahs ark and so high it could touch the clouds.
So no re'em doesn't just simply translate to oxen. It has a double meaning - ie: both mythological AND real.

Like the Cerberus and the dog, the Chimera and the Lion or the Bakeneko and the Cat.

As far as the Satyrs they also represent both. Physical animals and spiritual entities. The goat/wild man and the carnal instincts.

Remember when reading scripture it incorporates both mind and body. Not just one.


Unicorn refers to a mythological creature. No one says i just seen some unicorns at a zoo. Saying a rhino is a unicorn is like saying chimps are people because they have have humanoid shape and features or vice versa.
I have given further explanations in my previous post on why re'em cannot be a rhino.

Unfortunately the bible refers to satyrs in the literal sense you are trying to find excuses but nowhere does it say men were like satyrs. The fact that it mentioned them at all bible automatically presumes they exist in some capacity. They clearly don't and the only logical conclusion here is bible is a fairytale that you are bending over backwards trying justify. When you are cherrypicking if something gets to be a metaphor vs real in a story without justification you are no longer reading how it is but how you want to be. You are lying not only to me but yourself.

Btw satyrs and unicorns are not the only mythological creatures found in the bible. You have to ask yourself why would the bible include all that mythology?
Maybe the painfully obvious conclusion it is mythology. I know shocking. Another religion writing about dragons, cherubs, talking snakes, leviathans, resurrecting people from the dead but somehow other religions are fake, only yours is real.
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It translates to many different terms. Not just wild ox.
People are going to interpret it differently due to their geography, the timeframes, the language barriers etc.

There is not one universal agreement on the definition.

The word unicorn means a one-horned animal in the Christian scripture therefor we follow that definition. That doesn't mean the others are incorrect but you are not talking with Jewish people who speak Hebrew here you are talking with Christians who speak English.
The reason why alot of Christians gravitate towards the Rhino interpretation is because it's the only one-horned animal that uses the word unicorn in it's definition today: Rhinoceros unicornis. And this Rhino is present in this day and relatable to the biblical stories. Replace unicorn with rhino in the scripture it reads the same. Replace it with something like frog it wouldn't though.

Some of the specifics in scripture will change as time changes. However the scripture is written in a way that incorporates for that and the underlying message won't change as a result.


So if an English christian gets to decide what words and ultimately the bible means to them as opposed to Hebrew speaking jew then the bible simply becomes an arbitrary device for personal interpretation.
When you substitute words like re'em for a rhino you are effectively editing the bible.

This begs the question: Who has the correct translation/interpretation? Which version of the Bible and denomination is the one true version?

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Jun 18 2026 06:14am
So if an English christian gets to decide what words and ultimately the bible means to them as opposed to Hebrew speaking jew then the bible simply becomes an arbitrary device for personal interpretation.
When you substitute words like re'em for a rhino you are effectively editing the bible.

This begs the question: Who has the correct translation/interpretation? Which version of the Bible and denomination is the one true version?


Keep in mind that ALL literature is open to interpretation.
The human species does not come to a mutual agreement on anything whatsoever.
We are all individuals.

It is the revelation of literature which is important. What it reveals to you. THAT is the truth. God comes through revelation not through the clouds as a magical wizard like you might have been taught as a kid or something.

Remember what I said previously about the bible including the supernatural. ie: Forces beyond scientific understanding.
The scientific method of fact checking, evidence, data analysis or drawing conclusions does not apply like you want it to.

If you attempt to analyze the bible in those sort of terms you won't be able to do it and come up with any concrete hypothesis. The author is God. There is no other author to fact check.
If you can not grasp that concept alone and why that is the way it is then you surely won't be able to grasp anything from within too easily.

Take a simple topic in the bible that focuses on something like ethics. You can not apply the scientific method to ethics. Ethics don't come from science they come from elsewhere - that elsewhere us Christians call God.
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Jun 18 2026 08:29am
Unicorn refers to a mythological creature. No one says i just seen some unicorns at a zoo. Saying a rhino is a unicorn is like saying chimps are people because they have have humanoid shape and features or vice versa.
I have given further explanations in my previous post on why re'em cannot be a rhino.

Unfortunately the bible refers to satyrs in the literal sense you are trying to find excuses but nowhere does it say men were like satyrs. The fact that it mentioned them at all bible automatically presumes they exist in some capacity. They clearly don't and the only logical conclusion here is bible is a fairytale that you are bending over backwards trying justify. When you are cherrypicking if something gets to be a metaphor vs real in a story without justification you are no longer reading how it is but how you want to be. You are lying not only to me but yourself.

Btw satyrs and unicorns are not the only mythological creatures found in the bible. You have to ask yourself why would the bible include all that mythology?
Maybe the painfully obvious conclusion it is mythology. I know shocking. Another religion writing about dragons, cherubs, talking snakes, leviathans, resurrecting people from the dead but somehow other religions are fake, only yours is real.


the horsey unicorn wasnt a concept when scripture was written. that you cant see this speaks much about your ability to reason out anything. .... its concerning
WikipediaThe Free Encyclopedia
Unicorn
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In European literature and art, the unicorn has, for the last thousand years or so, been depicted as a white horse- or goat-like animal with a long, straight horn with spiraling grooves, cloven hooves, and sometimes a goat's beard.

old testament was written about 1400 years BC clearly before the time of the horsey unicorn.

how i always notice 'atheists make arguments against christianity referencing vague old testament scripture and even then they have to be incoherent and unreasonable about it

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Jun 18 2026 02:55pm
Keep in mind that ALL literature is open to interpretation.
The human species does not come to a mutual agreement on anything whatsoever.
We are all individuals.

It is the revelation of literature which is important. What it reveals to you. THAT is the truth. God comes through revelation not through the clouds as a magical wizard like you might have been taught as a kid or something.

Remember what I said previously about the bible including the supernatural. ie: Forces beyond scientific understanding.
The scientific method of fact checking, evidence, data analysis or drawing conclusions does not apply like you want it to.

If you attempt to analyze the bible in those sort of terms you won't be able to do it and come up with any concrete hypothesis. The author is God. There is no other author to fact check.
If you can not grasp that concept alone and why that is the way it is then you surely won't be able to grasp anything from within too easily.

Take a simple topic in the bible that focuses on something like ethics. You can not apply the scientific method to ethics. Ethics don't come from science they come from elsewhere - that elsewhere us Christians call God.


If the bible is open to personal interpretation then it is no longer a unifying ultimate universal truth it is simply a soundboard for others to project their personal beliefs and feelings.
When 20 different people can interpret the same passage to mean something completely different, that is not objective truth it is personal subjective opinion.

If the supernatural cannot be proven then why do you believe it to be true? Furthermore why do you choose to believe in a very specific mythology of the bible like, unicorns, satyrs, cockatrices, leviathans, demons and angels while not believing in Zoroastrianism creatures such as Simurgh, Senmurv (Saena) or Azi Dahaka (Zahhak)?




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