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Jun 14 2026 08:14am
...gnarjay has built up an extensive track record of rabid Israel hate here in this sub...


Well, if I look at his few posts, I must ponder, this "rabid Israel hate" how does it manifest itself?

(a) is it when he posts about the claims from Dr's that the IDF is target practising on Israeli children, a different part of the body to be shot each day? - #16418 Jun 11 2026 06:46pm
(b) is it when he posts about a child shot and killed by the IDF and certain people do not condemn the killing ? - #16412 Jun 11 2026 05:16pm
(c) is it when he points about detention facilities especially designed for Israeli youth of hate crimes? #16406 Jun 11 2026 06:46am

these are posts in the last few days, none of them antisemitic, or anti-zionist. Critical, Yes, racist, No. Being critical of practices, policies, organisations or the government of Israel, is not in fact Anti-Semitic and neither is it Anti-Zionist. While Israel (or you) may try to equate criticism to Anti Zionism or Anti Semitism (and well Israel is trying to bundle all that together) most people look at these news articles and take it as genuine information of public interest.

Do you believe a,b or c are not true? What about the collective punishment claims, or the claims baby formula is not allowed in to Gaza, is it anti Semitic to highlight this as well? Is the IDF above criticism? Are we meant to ignore settler violence nevermind the notion of aiding a country that was dropping 2000lbs bombs onto an urban area?

With brevity, the most damning response I can provide is:

Germany’s constitution commits Germany to Israel’s security. The ICC’s damning case against Israel (arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Galant) did not stop German support. However, when Nicaragua sued Germany at the ICJ for aiding genocide by arming Israel, Germany withdrew its defence of Israel in March 2026 to focus on its own legal defence.

I trust my point is made.

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final post of the day,
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a duty born of conscience should be to a principle (never again anyone), not to a flag (never again just for us).
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Well, if I look at his few posts, I must ponder, this "rabid Israel hate" how does it manifest itself?

(a) is it when he posts about the claims from Dr's that the IDF is target practising on Israeli children, a different part of the body to be shot each day? - #16418 Jun 11 2026 06:46pm
(b) is it when he posts about a child shot and killed by the IDF and certain people do not condemn the killing ? - #16412 Jun 11 2026 05:16pm
(c) is it when he points about detention facilities especially designed for Israeli youth of hate crimes? #16406 Jun 11 2026 06:46am

these are posts in the last few days, none of them antisemitic, or anti-zionist. Critical, Yes, racist, No. Being critical of practices, policies, organisations or the government of Israel, is not in fact Anti-Semitic and neither is it Anti-Zionist. While Israel (or you) may try to equate criticism to Anti Zionism or Anti Semitism (and well Israel is trying to bundle all that together) most people look at these news articles and take it as genuine information of public interest.

Do you believe a,b or c are not true? What about the collective punishment claims, or the claims baby formula is not allowed in to Gaza, is it anti Semitic to highlight this as well? Is the IDF above criticism? Are we meant to ignore settler violence nevermind the notion of aiding a country that was dropping 2000lbs bombs onto an urban area?

With brevity, the most damning response I can provide is:

Germany’s constitution commits Germany to Israel’s security. The ICC’s damning case against Israel (arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Galant) did not stop German support. However, when Nicaragua sued Germany at the ICJ for aiding genocide by arming Israel, Germany withdrew its defence of Israel in March 2026 to focus on its own legal defence.

I trust my point is made.


If this was intentional I would condemn it.
It wasnt therefore there is nothing to condemn
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Jun 14 2026 04:28pm
If this was intentional I would condemn it.
It wasnt therefore there is nothing to condemn


Its not about condemning a,b or c, its about whether reporting on a,b or c constitutes being anti-Semitic. While everyone is different, there appears to be a prevalence in certain quarters or countries that reporting on activities carried out by Israel and being critical of them, constitutes as being Anti Semitism.

Taking a look at the options available :

A. Condemn October 7th — but also condemn Israel's response: the annexation of Zone C in the West Bank, settler violence, the war on Gaza, and the bombing of Syria, Lebanon, and Iran. These actions stretch "self-defense" beyond any meaningful definition, breaking international law and the Geneva Conventions.

B. Condemn October 7th — then condemn anyone who questions Israel's actions, while supporting Israel's military campaigns politically and militarily under the blanket label of "self-defense." Ignore legal advice that this position is not defensible. Continue regardless of whether those campaigns involve breaking international law, violating the Geneva Conventions, or bombing sovereign countries far from Israel's borders.

When put side by side, Option B is problematic.

In other news...

In recent days, four protestors who caused criminal damage to an arms supplier in the UK were given prison sentences. One received 7 years and 8 months for fracturing a police sergeant's spine with a sledgehammer. On that point alone, I would argue he deserved 20 years. But the other three, convicted only of criminal damage, were treated differently. Their target was an Elbit Systems factory, an Israeli arms manufacturer supplying weapons used in Gaza, where credible allegations of genocide are being made.

The judge ruled that the jury could not be told what was damaged: weapons being sold to Israel, which is using them in a campaign that is highly questionable. The defence was forbidden from mentioning "genocide," "ethnic cleansing," or the history of Palestine and Israel. Nor was the jury told that a finding of "terrorist connection" was possible, or what sentencing consequences would follow. In a standard criminal damage case, the likely sentence would be a fine or a short custodial term. Instead, after the jury convicted on criminal damages, the judge activated a pre-trial ruling, kept from the jury, that the offences had a "terrorist connection." The result: instead of fines, three activists received five years, five years, and four years and eight months respectively. They will not qualify for early release. Upon release, they may be registered as terrorists for life.

This is not an isolated procedural quirk. The UK's political system is already corrupted by pro-Israel bias, where supporting Israel is a gateway to high office, and where the government has come down hard on Palestine Action. When a judge, operating inside that same contaminated system, masks the nature of what was damaged and hides the sentencing stakes from the jury, the notion of a neutral legal process is already meaningless.

The point here is that several EU countries, including the UK and Germany, are ignoring their own legal advise and they are doing things that they know are wrong, but are doing them anyway. so back to the original premise: being critical is a way better position to take, then defending corrupt Governments that are aiding and abetting in crimes against humanity. Yes I know Israel is at war but it went too far with Gaza.

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In the other thread there is a claim that a certain chemical was used to ensure the land is not habitable. We wont know for a fact for at least a month or two.
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Well, if I look at his few posts, I must ponder, this "rabid Israel hate" how does it manifest itself?

(a) is it when he posts about the claims from Dr's that the IDF is target practising on Israeli children, a different part of the body to be shot each day? - #16418 Jun 11 2026 06:46pm
(b) is it when he posts about a child shot and killed by the IDF and certain people do not condemn the killing ? - #16412 Jun 11 2026 05:16pm
(c) is it when he points about detention facilities especially designed for Israeli youth of hate crimes? #16406 Jun 11 2026 06:46am

these are posts in the last few days, none of them antisemitic, or anti-zionist. Critical, Yes, racist, No. Being critical of practices, policies, organisations or the government of Israel, is not in fact Anti-Semitic and neither is it Anti-Zionist. While Israel (or you) may try to equate criticism to Anti Zionism or Anti Semitism (and well Israel is trying to bundle all that together) most people look at these news articles and take it as genuine information of public interest.

Do you believe a,b or c are not true? What about the collective punishment claims, or the claims baby formula is not allowed in to Gaza, is it anti Semitic to highlight this as well? Is the IDF above criticism? Are we meant to ignore settler violence nevermind the notion of aiding a country that was dropping 2000lbs bombs onto an urban area?

With brevity, the most damning response I can provide is:

Germany’s constitution commits Germany to Israel’s security. The ICC’s damning case against Israel (arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Galant) did not stop German support. However, when Nicaragua sued Germany at the ICJ for aiding genocide by arming Israel, Germany withdrew its defence of Israel in March 2026 to focus on its own legal defence.

I trust my point is made.


Lol well you purposely skipped over some of his posts that clearly contradict the point you're trying to make in his defense.

hes insulated and brainwashed, sadly like the majority of israelis. its like nazi germany all over again


the israeli/zionist mindset in a nutshell

https://i.imgur.com/ELTQpOd.png


why should ANY one recognize Israel when by your very own standard, it is a terroristic neighbor? your delusion knows no bounds, truly . applying the same standard to Israel would mean every single neighboring country has a legitimized right to permanently destroy it ! or as you say 'neutralize'


I can find worse posts by him if you need more nonsense to try to defend lmk.

I think both of you supported the insane claim that Israel detonated a nuclear bomb under their own nuclear reactor in a tunnel FAR deeper than humans have ever dug in some bizarre "threat" to the United States. Obviously an earthquake was entirely out of the realm of possibility in comparison to that explanation :rolleyes: you guys will believe absolutely anything, including literally impossible claims, so long as they are anti-Israel.
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Jun 15 2026 06:12pm
what did I say that was wrong? or 'racist'?
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what did I say that was wrong? or 'racist'?


Just about everything falls into one category or the other as far as I can tell heh

But tried to make the argument that your posts are not "anti-zionist". So silly. I don't think you would even agree with that assessment, would you?
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Jun 15 2026 06:28pm
whats with netanyahu trying to block the investigation into Oct 7? why the stand down order and such? and why was the Hannibal directive implemented with so many civilians around?
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