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Jun 15 2026 09:58am
We are willing to go solo. The problem isn't willingness or ability; it's the fact that we are being stopped.

We could have finished Hamas in Gaza, we could finish Hezbollah in Lebanon, and we could have kept bombing Iran into oblivion. But the US almost seems to want us in survival mode forever, almost as if it is afraid of us breaking through these challenges


Such hubris.

The thing is, you say this but in reality Israel always has and will always continue to count on the US for aid. Per capita Israel dwarfs probably the next 10 military aid recipients and i'm not just talking about things that are announced and on-paper. There is no scenario where the US washes its hands and sits on the sideline when half of congress is deeply aligned with AIPEC.

Like for example, you say you could have bombed Iranian into oblivion, but at first sign of reciprocity you need billions of dollars in AA to be shipped. You need a coalition of Arabs, Europeans and the US to come in and aid. That's not going at it alone mate. So lets be honest, the reason Israel will listen to the US at least in public is because you absolutely need the US.
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Jun 15 2026 10:54am
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Such hubris.

The thing is, you say this but in reality Israel always has and will always continue to count on the US for aid. Per capita Israel dwarfs probably the next 10 military aid recipients and i'm not just talking about things that are announced and on-paper. There is no scenario where the US washes its hands and sits on the sideline when half of congress is deeply aligned with AIPEC.

Like for example, you say you could have bombed Iranian into oblivion, but at first sign of reciprocity you need billions of dollars in AA to be shipped. You need a coalition of Arabs, Europeans and the US to come in and aid. That's not going at it alone mate. So lets be honest, the reason Israel will listen to the US at least in public is because you absolutely need the US.


Israeli hubris in that post might be the worst ive seen on these forums ever. They dont even have the interceptors to last a week against Iran in a full blown war. I guess he forgot that the official state propaganda changed from "Iran cant have nukes" to "Iran's ballistic missiles are an existential threat to Israel". Even the regime realized they cannot go it alone. Then again these are the same plebs that on a Monday accepted that Hezbollah was just an arm of Iran's state, but on a Tuesday thought there was no problem bombing Hezbollah when a ceasefire with Iran was agreed on. Critical thinking has left the region, if it was ever there.
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Jun 15 2026 12:22pm
You can hear the voices in Lebanon people are tired of Hezbollah, which means they have lost the support of their own people.

Every time we are close to achieving total victory, the US stops us. Either they are stupid, or they simply want to keep us as their playground.

The only time we disobeyed the US was during the Yom Kippur War, when we surrounded and starved the Egyptian Third Army. That is what forced Sadat to fly to Israel, leading to a peace deal six years later.


Israel at it again gaza was not enough, now more war crimes in Lebanon :: BREAKING: Lebanon files UN Security Council complaint accusing I$rael of violating the Chemical Weapons Convention in the south

Lab tests from Aita al-Shaab, Naqoura, and Dhaira confirmed catastrophic levels of Glyphosate—a cancer-linked chemical—in agricultural soil.

Normal farming levels would show 0.5 to 2 mcg/g but tests on soil in South Lebanon show 22,750 mcg/g, 11,000 times above safe levels

It has been labeled by some as a deliberate war crime designed to permanently destroy arable border lands.
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Jun 15 2026 01:32pm
Israel at it again gaza was not enough, now more war crimes in Lebanon :: BREAKING: Lebanon files UN Security Council complaint accusing I$rael of violating the Chemical Weapons Convention in the south

Lab tests from Aita al-Shaab, Naqoura, and Dhaira confirmed catastrophic levels of Glyphosate—a cancer-linked chemical—in agricultural soil.

Normal farming levels would show 0.5 to 2 mcg/g but tests on soil in South Lebanon show 22,750 mcg/g, 11,000 times above safe levels

It has been labeled by some as a deliberate war crime designed to permanently destroy arable border lands.


Of course Israel is committing war crimes. Too bad Israel controls U.S. politicians, otherwise we would be ending aid to them immediately.

I was looking into the Iran deal and MAN... Trump taking a fat ass L on this one.

I want the war to be over, as well, but holy shit the terms... we basically gain absolutely nothing and a "promise" to continue talks of enriched uranium over 60 days? Plus unfreezing like $24 BILLION in frozen assets for Iran? Also talks of like $100 BN to Iran to rebuild?

Can a righty argue at all how this is a win?

EDIT - Also looks like Israel is refusing to end in Lebanon. I'm sure that will make signing a deal difficult. Does Trump have the balls to reign in this shit show?



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Jun 15 2026 03:27pm
Of course Israel is committing war crimes. Too bad Israel controls U.S. politicians, otherwise we would be ending aid to them immediately.

I was looking into the Iran deal and MAN... Trump taking a fat ass L on this one.

I want the war to be over, as well, but holy shit the terms... we basically gain absolutely nothing and a "promise" to continue talks of enriched uranium over 60 days? Plus unfreezing like $24 BILLION in frozen assets for Iran? Also talks of like $100 BN to Iran to rebuild?

Can a righty argue at all how this is a win?

EDIT - Also looks like Israel is refusing to end in Lebanon. I'm sure that will make signing a deal difficult. Does Trump have the balls to reign in this shit show?

https://i.imgur.com/Zh0t0gp.jpeg


The US paying Iran 300b is a weeks old claim that has been repeatedly debunked. As a part of some versions of the proposal a 300b investment(this is an important word) fund for rebuilding would be made available to Iran. Also, the funds would be raised by the gulf states, not by America.

Access to the fund is also based on Iran abandoning it's enrichment of uranium.

This is easily googleable, no righty required.

To be clear, these terms were part of one of many proposals and there's been no announcement of the actual terms that have been agreed to yet, so after you figure out google you should relax a little until information is actually available to you.
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Jun 15 2026 09:20pm
The US paying Iran 300b is a weeks old claim that has been repeatedly debunked. As a part of some versions of the proposal a 300b investment(this is an important word) fund for rebuilding would be made available to Iran. Also, the funds would be raised by the gulf states, not by America.

Access to the fund is also based on Iran abandoning it's enrichment of uranium.

This is easily googleable, no righty required.

To be clear, these terms were part of one of many proposals and there's been no announcement of the actual terms that have been agreed to yet, so after you figure out google you should relax a little until information is actually available to you.


Wait wait, so we spend $70 BILLION dollars bombing Iran, then we give them a $300 BILLION fund for them to rebuild, which supposedly doesn't include any payment from the US, but we also unfreeze $24 BILLION in Iranian assets...

All for... *checks notes*... being literally back where we were before the war began :rofl:

MAN WHAT A DEAL!!!

:rofl:

What a clown show.
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Jun 15 2026 10:27pm
Can we all just sit back and wait until Friday to see what's actually in the agreement, and also to see if it actually gets signed?

Jumping to conclusions right now is such a waste of time.
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Jun 16 2026 02:10am
Well, I gotta admit 1 thing.
The junta around Trump has realized it's better to end the war with a L instead of keeping it going and making the situation worse everyday.

I wish Putin would finally come to that conclusion as well.
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