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Jun 13 2026 09:23pm
Sacrifice is a sin offering. If you don't sin you don't need to sacrifice an animal for it's blood. The bible makes this clear.

Nowhere does the bible state that slavery is forced. It's servitude to pay off a debt owed. Just like a renter is to a landlord or a visa is to a migrant.
The bible clearly states the wrong-doing of those who do coerce people as slaves.

There is a difference between murder and killing. Murder is illegal but killing can be done in just terms. Ie: capital punishment, just war and self-defense. The bible is clear on this.

The bible also clearly warns about false prophets and cult like leaders. It doesn't endorse cult behaviors like you might think it does.

But you don't read it so I don't expect you to know these kinds of things.


What is "just" about killing babies and drowning all the animals? As the bible constantly loves to justify genocides because the wizard says it is ok.

Tell me again what wholesome family values was the bible trying to teach with this nugget?

1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
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Jun 13 2026 10:04pm
What is "just" about killing babies and drowning all the animals? As the bible constantly loves to justify genocides because the wizard says it is ok.

Tell me again what wholesome family values was the bible trying to teach with this nugget?

1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”


The Amalekites attacked the Jewish people when they were escaping Egypt but the Jewish people weren't on their territory.

This is known as treachery. Ie: an act of war.
Retribution followed.

Just like I said before. You are focused on the donkey being in the wrong rather than the guy who is beating the donkey.
You are focusing on the Jewish people being wrong in this verse too rather than the people who attacked them unjustly in the first place.

You are also attacking righteous people in this thread like Balaam did to the Donkey and the Amalekites did to the Jews. If you don't understand that this can be detrimental to your health and wellbeing we are here to kindly remind you about that.

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Jun 13 2026 10:23pm
What is "just" about killing babies and drowning all the animals? As the bible constantly loves to justify genocides because the wizard says it is ok.

Tell me again what wholesome family values was the bible trying to teach with this nugget?

1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”


Oh look, a cherry picked verse rather than the entire message.

The Amalekites are portrayed longstanding enemies of Israel who attacked vulnerable Israelites during the Exodus. God was judging a nation for generations of violence and hostility. The command is seen not as ordinary warfare but as a unique judicial act carried out through Israel. God, as the giver of life, has authority over life and death in a way humans do not.
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Jun 13 2026 11:41pm
The Amalekites attacked the Jewish people when they were escaping Egypt but the Jewish people weren't on their territory.

This is known as treachery. Ie: an act of war.
Retribution followed.

Just like I said before. You are focused on the donkey being in the wrong rather than the guy who is beating the donkey.
You are focusing on the Jewish people being wrong in this verse too rather than the people who attacked them unjustly in the first place.

You are also attacking righteous people in this thread like Balaam did to the Donkey and the Amalekites did to the Jews. If you don't understand that this can be detrimental to your health and wellbeing we are here to kindly remind you about that.


You completely ignored the part where women, children, infants, cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys are to be put to death.
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Jun 14 2026 03:04am
You completely ignored the part where women, children, infants, cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys are to be put to death.


I'm not ignoring anything. The Jewish people did not start this conflict. They finished it. Read the scripture:

“Remember what Amalek did to you along the way when you came out from Egypt, how he met you along the way and attacked among you all the stragglers at your rear when you were faint and weary; and he did not fear God. Therefore it shall come about when the Lord your God has given you rest from all your surrounding enemies, in the land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance to possess, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven; you must not forget."

In our modern day this is known as 'Total War'.
It still applies to this day. It can still happen to you in the draft or if you are conscripted and if you refuse to fight it can have even worse consequences for you or your people...
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Jun 14 2026 03:38am
I'm not ignoring anything. The Jewish people did not start this conflict. They finished it. Read the scripture:

“Remember what Amalek did to you along the way when you came out from Egypt, how he met you along the way and attacked among you all the stragglers at your rear when you were faint and weary; and he did not fear God. Therefore it shall come about when the Lord your God has given you rest from all your surrounding enemies, in the land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance to possess, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven; you must not forget."

In our modern day this is known as 'Total War'.
It still applies to this day. It can still happen to you in the draft or if you are conscripted and if you refuse to fight it can have even worse consequences for you or your people...


We don't exterminate non combatants such as women, babies, infants and animals. There are clear conducts and conventions in place. There is such a thing as collateral damage but it is avoided as much as possible. In the bible it is the primary goal. Even the animals for some reason are targeted.
Total war is a video game and an oudated concept from bronze age which you seem to still be stuck in.

You still are ignoring the question of what is just in slaughtering infants and animals?
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Jun 14 2026 03:39am
Oh look, a cherry picked verse rather than the entire message.

The Amalekites are portrayed longstanding enemies of Israel who attacked vulnerable Israelites during the Exodus. God was judging a nation for generations of violence and hostility. The command is seen not as ordinary warfare but as a unique judicial act carried out through Israel. God, as the giver of life, has authority over life and death in a way humans do not.


The Amalekites attacked the Jewish people when they were escaping Egypt but the Jewish people weren't on their territory.

This is known as treachery. Ie: an act of war.
Retribution followed.

Just like I said before. You are focused on the donkey being in the wrong rather than the guy who is beating the donkey.
You are focusing on the Jewish people being wrong in this verse too rather than the people who attacked them unjustly in the first place.

You are also attacking righteous people in this thread like Balaam did to the Donkey and the Amalekites did to the Jews. If you don't understand that this can be detrimental to your health and wellbeing we are here to kindly remind you about that.


'atheists are the most brutal and bloodthirsty people ever to rise up. never in the whole history of the world has anyone brought more misery to the world then 'atheists
record lies murders abortions imprisonment. his real objection about amalekites is the resentment of judgement

(its past time to conclude the 'atheist experiment)
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

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Jun 14 2026 03:52am
We don't exterminate non combatants such as women, babies, infants and animals. There are clear conducts and conventions in place. There is such a thing as collateral damage but it is avoided as much as possible. In the bible it is the primary goal. Even the animals for some reason are targeted.
Total war is a video game and an oudated concept from bronze age which you seem to still be stuck in.

You still are ignoring the question of what is just in slaughtering infants and animals?


The Amalekites tried to eradicate the Jewish people first.
So with your logic the Amalekites can murder all the Jewish people and they aren't supposed to retaliate?

Again: The Jewish people did not start this conflict. They finished it.

Careful not to contradict yourself here about infants and animals. You're the one targeting the Cherubs and the Donkey here. I bet you eat animals too.
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Jun 14 2026 04:02am
you ever see a 'atheist object to the number of murdered babies per year. yet if its a story in scripture (that they dont believe) about judgement they will writhe around on the ground in agony and horror

March 24, 2026
Guttmacher Releases Full-Year 2025 Abortion Incidence and Travel Data
Today the Guttmacher Institute released new data from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study, showing that there were an estimated 1,126,000 clinician-provided abortions in the United States in 2025. For the first time, these estimates include telehealth provision to residents of states with total bans, as well as updates to prior year estimates to include these states.
https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2026/guttmacher-releases-full-year-2025-abortion-incidence-and-travel-data
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'atheists are the most brutal and bloodthirsty people ever to rise up. never in the whole history of the world has anyone brought more misery to the world then 'atheists
record lies murders abortions imprisonment. his real objection about amalekites is the resentment of judgement

(its past time to conclude the 'atheist experiment)
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered


Yes true,
The funny part is in order to avoid a draft or conscription one of the reasons you can is based on religious grounds. Or medically not fit. Or a non-essential worker. Or in exile.
Seeings addone isn't religious it leaves us with the other three options to narrow down. It's highly unlikely he is in exile. So that leaves us with him either being not medically fit or a non-essential worker...

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