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Jun 13 2026 05:41am
I know someone who's escaped a religious christian cult and now no longer influenced by their crazy doctrine. Checkmate

You have no proof just hoping some random guy on the internet has it. Come back when you can articulate what that evidence actually is instead of speculating.



Thats very easy you can verify, cross reference any of those books, test them out and see if they have peer reviews etc. Do they match reality? You shouldn't believe any book on hearsay alone thats what guillable people do.
Yes that includes history and science just because a dictionary has a word doesn't mean its a legitimate word.

If you want examples how to do that I can walk you through the basic steps. Good luck


So you not only read the text but you match it to the real world? That's exactly what we have been telling you this entire time. One of the most famous examples in this thread is the HolyLandSite domain.

The evidence for God lies in creation itself. Let me give you a simple example. If I hold up a beach ball and a tennis ball they are both very different sizes. Yet if I move the beach ball farther away but keep the tennis ball close then at some point both objects will appear to be the same size.

Now let's apply this concept to the sun and moon. The fact that the sun is so big and so far away and the moon is much smaller and closer and yet they appear to be the same size. Now this is what makes eclipses possible, whether it be solar or lunar. That alone is evidence of a creator who mathematically calculated the distance and lined them up perfectly.

You simply cannot study an eclipse and tell me that was completely random the way it all perfectly lines up the way it does.

It just so happens on the 28th August this Year there will be a Partial Lunar Eclipse in New Zealand that you will be able to observe. The next Total Solar Eclipse in New Zealand will be on the 22nd July 2028. The fact that we as people can calculate the exact date and location of these events when we study the sky shows the order of creation and most importantly, evidence of a creator.
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Jun 13 2026 05:43am
People wrote on clay tablets (used in Mesopotamia for cuneiform), papyrus (made from plant reeds in Egypt), and parchment or vellum (processed animal skins used in Europe and the Mediterranean).
Its not just the writing its the lack of archeological proof and logical and basis in reality thats lacking from the bible.


It doesn't lack. A person can show historical receipts of Jesus using ancient roman records, historical writings, and archaeological discoveries, or they can show spiritual receipts through the positive actions, changed heart and good fruit in their own life. Your way of thinking does not produce good fruit and is way less attractive than the love of Jesus.
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Jun 13 2026 06:07am
It doesn't lack. A person can show historical receipts of Jesus using ancient roman records, historical writings, and archaeological discoveries, or they can show spiritual receipts through the positive actions, changed heart and good fruit in their own life. Your way of thinking does not produce good fruit and is way less attractive than the love of Jesus.


Bible makes a lot of falsifiable claims that don't yield any fruit. For bible to be true all of it must be true. It literally has a whole bunch of mythological creatures like dragons, talking donkeys, satyrs, cherubim, unicorns etc how do you not see it as fiction?
The evidence that you think proves the bible is speculation, hearsay and secondhand information at best.

Christianity has never been proven to be real its a fairytale and your jesus failed to show up because he doesn't exist. He can always prove me wrong but since he isn't here you are left holding a bag of nothing.
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Jun 13 2026 06:42am
Bible makes a lot of falsifiable claims that don't yield any fruit. For bible to be true all of it must be true. It literally has a whole bunch of mythological creatures like dragons, talking donkeys, satyrs, cherubim, unicorns etc how do you not see it as fiction?
The evidence that you think proves the bible is speculation, hearsay and secondhand information at best.

Christianity has never been proven to be real its a fairytale and your jesus failed to show up because he doesn't exist. He can always prove me wrong but since he isn't here you are left holding a bag of nothing.


You continue to have a direct misunderstanding of the bible and continue to strengthen the gospel.

The bible will continue to be truth and anybody who chooses to accept Jesus as their lord and savior and become a new creation, their life will not be the same. There is a drastic change to their heart and it shows and becomes a visibly attractive way of living.

Every new created Christian living their life for others is Jesus on full display. "For the father has sent me I now send you".

Your life addone is a created life with a soul and you do not have a relationship with the one who created you. I desperately want you knowing Jesus. It is not a fairytale.
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Jun 13 2026 07:38am
I didn't ask for definitions I asked for the actual proof. Saying a blade of grass was made by magic wizard is not proof its speculation.
You need to demonstrate how you arrived at the conclusion. Show the receipts not speculation or arguments from ignorance. Another fail.

The reason you keep failing to provide proof is because you don't actually have any. Just too embarrassed to admit you are guillable, defending an indefensible position.


i do give you proof you just keep lying and having a 2 year old fit about it. the progression of science has no naturalistic explanation for living systems (life). therefore by definition life is supernatural or you can call it magic if that makes you think that accomplishes anything.

i suppose you will deny everything which makes you a science denier.

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Clarke’s third law, which states that "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

you call it "magic wizard"

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Jun 13 2026 08:43am
Bible makes a lot of falsifiable claims that don't yield any fruit. For bible to be true all of it must be true. It literally has a whole bunch of mythological creatures like dragons, talking donkeys, satyrs, cherubim, unicorns etc how do you not see it as fiction?
The evidence that you think proves the bible is speculation, hearsay and secondhand information at best.

Christianity has never been proven to be real its a fairytale and your jesus failed to show up because he doesn't exist. He can always prove me wrong but since he isn't here you are left holding a bag of nothing.


Not a talking Donkey. Someone speaking on the Donkeys behalf because it's being beaten.

See the reason us Christians read these types of verses is to remind us not to beat animals when they are using survival traits or trying to help us survive. To look after our animals not harm them.

You are focused on the donkey being in the wrong rather than the guy who is beating the donkey.

I hope you don't own any pets...
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Jun 13 2026 03:39pm
Not a talking Donkey. Someone speaking on the Donkeys behalf because it's being beaten.

See the reason us Christians read these types of verses is to remind us not to beat animals when they are using survival traits or trying to help us survive. To look after our animals not harm them.

You are focused on the donkey being in the wrong rather than the guy who is beating the donkey.

I hope you don't own any pets...


You are confusing moral/ethics teaching with historical facts. There are millions of fiction books that illustrate helpful and commonsense ideas that don't form cults around them and call the stories true.

Besides christians love cherrypicking quotes from the bible like a trailmix. There is a lot of nasty murder, slavery, and genocides in the bible but be a good boy and don't focus on god demanding sacrificing animals to appease his massive ego focus on the part where you will be happy little sheep instead.

Luke 12:32
“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.
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Jun 13 2026 04:44pm
Not a talking Donkey. Someone speaking on the Donkeys behalf because it's being beaten.

See the reason us Christians read these types of verses is to remind us not to beat animals when they are using survival traits or trying to help us survive. To look after our animals not harm them.

You are focused on the donkey being in the wrong rather than the guy who is beating the donkey.

I hope you don't own any pets...


I think he owns a couple of dogs.
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Jun 13 2026 06:15pm
You are confusing moral/ethics teaching with historical facts. There are millions of fiction books that illustrate helpful and commonsense ideas that don't form cults around them and call the stories true.

Besides christians love cherrypicking quotes from the bible like a trailmix. There is a lot of nasty murder, slavery, and genocides in the bible but be a good boy and don't focus on god demanding sacrificing animals to appease his massive ego focus on the part where you will be happy little sheep instead.

Luke 12:32
“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.


Sacrifice is a sin offering. If you don't sin you don't need to sacrifice an animal for it's blood. The bible makes this clear.

Nowhere does the bible state that slavery is forced. It's servitude to pay off a debt owed. Just like a renter is to a landlord or a visa is to a migrant.
The bible clearly states the wrong-doing of those who do coerce people as slaves.

There is a difference between murder and killing. Murder is illegal but killing can be done in just terms. Ie: capital punishment, just war and self-defense. The bible is clear on this.

The bible also clearly warns about false prophets and cult like leaders. It doesn't endorse cult behaviors like you might think it does.

But you don't read it so I don't expect you to know these kinds of things.
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Jun 13 2026 07:07pm
You are confusing moral/ethics teaching with historical facts. There are millions of fiction books that illustrate helpful and commonsense ideas that don't form cults around them and call the stories true.

Besides christians love cherrypicking quotes from the bible like a trailmix. There is a lot of nasty murder, slavery, and genocides in the bible but be a good boy and don't focus on god demanding sacrificing animals to appease his massive ego focus on the part where you will be happy little sheep instead.

Luke 12:32
“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.


No, atheists cherry pick certain verses to take those chapters out of context. None of you reference stories in full and you do not actually look into the biblical meaning behind any of God's word. You instead apply modern logic and twist the scripture.

Born again Christian's do not cherry pick.
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