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Jun 11 2026 07:34am
Yet Russia hasn't been able to make any territorial gains in half a year, even lost some territory.
And while it is true that Ukrainian cities are getting wrecked, so is Russia's oil industry. And Russian cities are increasingly becoming targets, too.

Kinda similar story in the Gulf region, where neither side is able to break the tense standoff in the Strait of Hormuz.


Simply not true. Border areas have been taken by the Russians and another major Ukrainian stronghold Kostyantynivka is on the brink.

There have been shifts in grey zone where Ukrainians managed to reduce the grey zone not the area shown in red (occupied by Russia).
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Simply not true. Border areas have been taken by the Russians and another major Ukrainian stronghold Kostyantynivka is on the brink.

There have been shifts in grey zone where Ukrainians managed to reduce the grey zone not the area shown in red (occupied by Russia).


Does that make you happy? :bouncy:
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Jun 11 2026 10:21am
Does that make you happy? :bouncy:


The principal thing, my dear, is that every Ukrainian is delighted by it. And I am delighted by their delight.
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Jun 11 2026 11:36am
Does that make you happy? :bouncy:


Reality is what matters and this has always been the case whether you like it or not.

Has nothing to do with me, why are you even trying
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Jun 11 2026 11:54am
Reality is what matters and this has always been the case whether you like it or not.

Has nothing to do with me, why are you even trying


But the reality u r describing is.. let's say.. creative. ^_^

And if you don't admit to personal feelings - it makes you sound like a...
Machine! A robot!
Ever heard of the Russian bot army?

They're the first to weaponize false information in a new form of warfare. Very, very sophisticated!
Wow, did I just meet one? :bouncy:

That would be sooo cool. May u pm me an autograph pls :hail:
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But the reality u r describing is.. let's say.. creative. ^_^

And if you don't admit to personal feelings - it makes you sound like a...
Machine! A robot!
Ever heard of the Russian bot army?

They're the first to weaponize false information in a new form of warfare. Very, very sophisticated!
Wow, did I just meet one? :bouncy:

That would be sooo cool. May u pm me an autograph pls :hail:


Multiple mappers show what is happening on the ground including Ukraine's official source Deepstate.

Did you know Deepstate was showing ever increasing grey zones because they didn't want to show the territory in red?

Now in most cases Ukrainian advances only reduce the large grey zones that they were showing on their map...

When your own propaganda bites you in the ass :thumbsup:

This post was edited by Djunior on Jun 11 2026 12:53pm
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Jun 12 2026 11:13am
lmao clueless

NATO went all in supporting Ukraine and now they're finding out. That Ukraine is corrupt is true, corrupt officials are lining their pockets which is something I've always pointed out. Regular Russia-Ukraine posters know it, you don't. My earlier post apparently hurt your feelings that's why you're suddenly bitching about Ukraine in an Iran topic.

And your WW2 comments are so wrong it shows exactly how clueless you really are. The allied landing in Normandy (Allied landings not just US landings) happened in 1944, Germany had been fighting the red army from june 1941 and had suffered massive losses. About 75-80% of German losses occured on the Eastern front. Imagine all those Germans sitting there, al those crack divisions waiting for them to land. It was the best trained and best equipped army in the world before they invaded the USSR. They would've totally wrecked the allied invasion force no doubt about it.


Soviet manpower bore the brunt of the fighting,
American industrial aid via the Lend-Lease Act ($11+ billion in supplies, worth nearly $200 billion today) was the irreplaceable backbone that kept the USSR from collapse.
The critical numbers behind the U.S. intervention include:
400,000+ Trucks and Jeeps: Supplied by the U.S., making up nearly 1/3 of the entire Soviet logistics fleet by 1945 and providing the vital mobility needed for counter-offensives.
1,900 Locomotives & 622,000 Tons of Steel Rails: Kept the Soviet railway network running after the USSR completely halted its own train production to focus on tanks.
2.5 Million Tons of Aviation Fuel: Fueled the vast majority of Soviet fighter planes; without this high-octane American fuel, the Soviet air force would have been largely grounded.
4.5 Million Tons of Food: Fed a starving nation and military after the USSR lost its primary agricultural lands to the German advance.
As Joseph Stalin himself stated flatly at the Tehran Conference in 1943: "Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war.
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Jun 12 2026 11:26am
Soviet manpower bore the brunt of the fighting,
American industrial aid via the Lend-Lease Act ($11+ billion in supplies, worth nearly $200 billion today) was the irreplaceable backbone that kept the USSR from collapse.
The critical numbers behind the U.S. intervention include:
400,000+ Trucks and Jeeps: Supplied by the U.S., making up nearly 1/3 of the entire Soviet logistics fleet by 1945 and providing the vital mobility needed for counter-offensives.
1,900 Locomotives & 622,000 Tons of Steel Rails: Kept the Soviet railway network running after the USSR completely halted its own train production to focus on tanks.
2.5 Million Tons of Aviation Fuel: Fueled the vast majority of Soviet fighter planes; without this high-octane American fuel, the Soviet air force would have been largely grounded.
4.5 Million Tons of Food: Fed a starving nation and military after the USSR lost its primary agricultural lands to the German advance.
As Joseph Stalin himself stated flatly at the Tehran Conference in 1943: "Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war.


Good point and even the Soviets themselves acknowledge that aid was crucial because the USSR was fighting the best army in the world at the time, well trained / equipped and highly motivated.

The allies understood they had no choice other than to provide aid or they would have to fight these superior divisions themselves would the USSR collapse.

Now the point is that nobody in the West acknowledges the sacrifices of the red army and the civilians in the USSR while they were responsible for the majority of the losses of Nazi Germany it's a simple fact.
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Jun 12 2026 11:32am
Good point and even the Soviets themselves acknowledge that aid was crucial because the USSR was fighting the best army in the world at the time, well trained / equipped and highly motivated.

The allies understood they had no choice other than to provide aid or they would have to fight these superior divisions themselves would the USSR collapse.

Now the point is that nobody in the West acknowledges the sacrifices of the red army and the civilians in the USSR while they were responsible for the majority of the losses of Nazi Germany it's a simple fact.


this conversation devolved over the years from "the soviets dont get the credit the deserve" to "the USA did nothing, it was really Russia who won the war".

There were so many moving pieces, Germany pushed into Russia in the first place because of pressure on the western front. Hitler foolishly thought he could handle the Soviets before winter set in fully to stop them before their industrialization would crush him.

Hitler got smooshed between two great powers, Soviets paid an insane cost in lives and were crucial on both the eastern and western theaters just like the USA. i think its accurate to say we have no idea of the allies could have won without both Russia and the USA in the war. And its almost 100% sure that the allies would have lost to a Germany, Japan, Italy, Russia alliance. German weaponry with Russian soldier count would have been insane. Toss in Italy's gains in jets towards the end of the war and we might have been screwed.
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Jun 12 2026 11:47am
Is this Iran deal better because Obamas name isn't on it?
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