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Jun 11 2026 11:55am
The EU and UK are at breaking points over the strain of migration. They flooded their countries with migrants, disproportionately young and male, who culturally clash with them, drain social services and compete for resources like housing.
Ukraine is engaged in an EU/UK-backed existential conflict that has severely depopulated their country and wiped out the young male population. They could not recover in multiple fertile generations, let alone their less-than-replacement rates.

The answer should be obvious
Once a peace deal with Russia can be secured and the EU-membership of West Ukraine guaranteed, the migrants of Germany, France, Spain, Ireland, Britain etc can begin moving to Ukraine en masse to be supported by the EU as a replacement population for the generation lost in war. On top of the need for farmers and miners to work the fields and industries left abandoned, migrants could also serve as a NATO peacekeeping force in Ukraine. Heavily armed Sudanese, Ethiopian, Syrian, etc peacekeepers would fulfill a dual role of safeguarding against further Russian intrusion and maintaining the integrity of the EU-backed Ukrainian government against any potential for domestic insurrection, say by far-right populist factions that could threaten a nascent EU-allied regime.

This solution works on multiple levels. The people of Western Ukraine overwhelmingly supported rejecting the Russian sphere of influence to seek the EU's embrace. Once elections were held after the Maidan- they voted for this. A diverse and multicultural democratic future, with each member state supporting the others according to their abilities and receiving aid according to their needs. It was Russian irredentism and intolerance that sought to exclude migrants, exploit the third world and stamp out minorities like LGBT2SQQIA* in the name of their christofascist state.

Its just a nice simple solution that gets two birds with one stone. The EU may not have the resources to indefinitely support Ukraine in a war of attrition against Russia and the Ukrainians are mostly dead or fled already, while civil society inside EU nations is already breaking down with race riots in the streets of Belfast and populist regressive political parties rising faster than the BBC can suppress them with Brussels approved counterprogramming. By simply sending the muslims to ukraine and building a good number of mosques there, Merz and Ursula could wipe their hands of the whole thing
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Jun 11 2026 12:51pm
First things first all those ethnic Ukrainians that fled to the EU must be rounded up and sent back to Ukraine to fight the Russians.

Forget that they are refugees that fled a deadly conflict just strip their rights from them it's for a good cause after all!

Suckturio will definitely approve am I right
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Jun 11 2026 12:51pm
First things first all those ethnic Ukrainians that fled to the EU must be rounded up and sent back to Ukraine to fight the Russians.
Forget that they are refugees that fled a deadly conflict just strip their rights from them it's for a good cause after all!
Suckturio will definitely approve am I right


Well yes, the men at least. And any women over 40

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 11 2026 12:52pm
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Jun 12 2026 02:33am

I'm happy 2 c u r concerning urself with Euro matters. It's comforting 2 know the big brother hasn't abandonded his lil annoying sis yet.

you shud set up a youtube channel and promote these fabolous ideas! tistuff can then reference them here to get u off the ground. it will be HUGE!

This post was edited by Sankturio on Jun 12 2026 02:33am
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Jun 12 2026 03:29am
It is estimated that Ukraine had a population of 43-44M before the war. 9M were estimated to have fled originally. Depending on source, the current population is between 30 and 38M. Russia and Ukraine are currently at war. Europe is preparing to go to war, and 2030 has been bandied about. The notion of people, moving from Europe, to Ukraine, is ignoring the reality that the war is not over.
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Jun 12 2026 03:38am
No sounds like a bend over and take it kind of a deal.

Return all the refugees back to their respective countries. Maybe make exceptions if they are willing to go on the front lines. Give them incentives like for every 10 confirmed kills they will receive citizenship or something that says if you are willing to bleed for us then you have earned our hospitality.

That way Ukraine can repel Russia easier and gain a valuable allies in the future.

Repopulating post conflict is a non issue. Throw some incentives, give out some land and within 10-20 years back to original numbers. (Not that lower population is necessarily a bad thing either). All you are suggesting is diluting a genepool
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Jun 12 2026 05:56am
Just give the migrants Paris, and wall them in there.
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Jun 12 2026 06:00am
Just give the migrants Paris, and wall them in there.


They've already taken Paris :lol:
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Jun 12 2026 06:04am
"Project Tchernorossiya".
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Jun 12 2026 06:49am
No sounds like a bend over and take it kind of a deal.

Return all the refugees back to their respective countries. Maybe make exceptions if they are willing to go on the front lines. Give them incentives like for every 10 confirmed kills they will receive citizenship or something that says if you are willing to bleed for us then you have earned our hospitality.

That way Ukraine can repel Russia easier and gain a valuable allies in the future.

Repopulating post conflict is a non issue. Throw some incentives, give out some land and within 10-20 years back to original numbers. (Not that lower population is necessarily a bad thing either). All you are suggesting is diluting a genepool


Their overall population has been slashed by 1/3 to 1/2, but their working age young population demographic has vanished almost entirely.
Someone needs to work the fields and mine the minerals, to keep the greater EU project fed and warm

Once this war is over the EU won't be able to feed migrants into a woodchipper as easily, sure you could try to incentivize that now but it wouldn't be productive for a war being fought by autonomous drones. Getting all the migrants slaughtered, that's one bird one stone. What I'm talking about is letting the EU stay afloat on the backs of a subservient african labor brought unwillingly to work fields in some farflung hellhole just like the good ol years. Two birds, one stone.

But barring anything like my plan, you aren't getting Ukraine back to its original population in the next 50 years
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