Did you read what i wrote? I was not attacking Israel, Israeli people, or Israeli children. I was also not attacking the notion of prisons, or detention facilities that have children in them. I said Western societies (noting this forum is predominantly western societies) far from war struggle to comprehend what it means for 15-year-olds to be firebombing houses (and winding up behind bars). Of course, in every country there is child crime, and detention, but breaking into a person's house and throwing a molotov cocktail is not common, in any country. The US has a lot of children under 18 detained.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 11 2026 07:12am

this is the reality . I understand i am fighting against a lifetime of Israeli propaganda that has taken over your brain but i will not stop trying to show you the truth

The tragic incident in Hebron is under an active Military Police investigation, and the IDF has already explicitly stated the family were uninvolved civilians. Unlike the Hamas and IRGC regimes you carry water for, Israel actually investigates its own forces and enforces legal accountability when things go wrong

Does IRGC and Hamas have Betselem like activists?

foreign doctors serving in Gazan hospitals have been saying for over a year that kids keep coming into the hospitals with gunshot wounds they got from the dedicated food sites. even seeing multiple boys come in with gunshot wounds all to the exact same place (3-4 come in at the same time all shot in the same leg, next day it's same arm, etc) making it clear they're just human target practice.

but hey, thank god Israel is investigating a single shooting, i bet the guilty soldier will even have a few sheckles removed from his pay.

You guys are passing the goalposts back and forth like a hot potato. ⁠gnarjay⁠ gets completely exposed for fabricating a cartoonish lie about 'prisons for children,' so you jump in with unverified internet rumors about 'human target practice' to bail him out.
Let’s talk about reality: when crowds swarm aid distribution sites in Gaza, it is Hamas thugs and armed gangs who are actively shooting civilians to hijack the trucks, steal the food, and resell it on the black market to fund their survival. But you’ll swallow any absurd conspiracy theory that treats a highly trained military like a comic-book villain, just so you don't have to face the actual culture of jihad we are dealing with

the difference between you and me is when i hear a mountain of evidence from doctors, journalists, and aid workers who all report that they've witnessed in person Israeli soldiers shooting people trying to get food, including women and children, i dont act like a coward and retreat to my bias.

i am one of the most anti-Islam people you've ever met. My opinions on the religion itself would be enough to make your Rabbi blush. So you can miss me with the Jihad nonsense. I see at the same time that your nation is making an utter ass out of itself, on the world stage, with a bunch of things that simply aren't needed. i dont support the war in gaza, as you know, from a macro scale. but from a micro scale you're also making mistakes daily that are just self owns. im the type of person who's bothered by people executing poor tactics, whether i have a dog in the fight or not. the moment your country started to get heat for human rights violations you should have FLOODED gaza with food. so much food that Hamas' black market disappeared. its not even very hard. other nations would trip over themselves to donate and send items straight to the blockade for inspection. but hamas can operate a black market, because someone did a just over starvation calculation on calories and limited the number of aid sites from 40+ to only 4. literally 4 the last time i checked.

hamas are monsters, i wish every one of them and all of their supporters were thanos snapped out of existence. you're just idiots. you're not good at this and you're becoming a villain on the world stage partially because you're just not smart enough to take easy wins.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 11 2026 11:28am

I am deuced glad, old chap, that you have at last embraced their culture. That is the first step.

the 'tragic incident' is a military practice





you carry water for barbaric genociders and repeat their same propaganda

Let’s look at actual tactical reality instead of playing armchair general, ⁠thesnipa⁠. You’re sitting thousands of miles away thinking a brutal urban war against a subterranean terror network can be solved by 'flooding the zone with food.'
Hamas doesn’t operate a black market because of a calorie calculation; they operate it because they have guns, and starving civilians don’t. You could send 10,000 trucks a day, and an armed terrorist organization embedded in the civilian infrastructure will still hijack them at gunpoint, hoard the supplies in their tunnels, and shoot anyone who gets in their way. More unsecured aid just means more fuel for Hamas to weaponize.
As for your 'mountain of evidence' from activist-doctors? You’re confusing a highly coordinated, politically motivated PR campaign designed for Western media consumption with objective forensic reality. If a modern military actually had a systematic policy of using children for sniper target practice, it would be a statistical reality in the casualty data, not just a collection of identical, sensationalized anecdotes fed to Al Jazeera.
Your entire lecture relies on the naive assumption that this conflict can be solved with easy public relations wins. There are no 'easy wins' when you are fighting an enemy that actively profits from the misery and starvation of its own people

Yea… okay!