You are not providing any proof for gods existence once more. You just restating it must be this or that like a parrot. Pure arguments out of ignorance.

Let me assert any god Nzambi Ampungu (Kongo), Unkulunkulu (Zulu), or Olodumare/Olorun (Yoruba) who created everything including the possibility of knowledge, logic and reason etc. Only through them everything is possible. All other gods are a lie they are the only real ones.

They meet all your assumptive criteria for possibility of knowledge. (Checkmate)

I wasn't talking about church history I was asking for your justification why you believe Jesus to be fully god and not a regular human with powers granted by a god (contingent). Your response "because I was told by the church who somehow figured it out".
I didn't fumble anything your arguments are all contingent on presumptive assertions which you are refusing to justify. Remember hitchens razor. If you keep making baseless claims I am just going to negate them "with no its not"

No it wasn't, I just explained why I was commenting. There is nothing weird or sexual about muslims praying you are deliberately trying to make it homosexual for some reason. Do you imagine christians also in a sexual pose when they get on their knees and hold their hands close to their mouth like they are holding something?



I have no problem on you commenting on muslims impeding traffic I will call out the non existent sexual innuendo that you keep projecting. Its just childish and uncalled for stick to the actual debate.

What I see here is the question of "why should I respect you"

Am I wrong?

I shall explain it to you from the beginning?

God had a big problem starting back in Genesis 3, that being sin. Sin is the rebellious nature we have towards God. Even back then He promised that sin would be dealt with. From Genesis Chapters 3 - 11 we see the spread of sin and the attempts to stop it from spreading. At this point the Bible would have ended if Humans were to write the Bible.

In Genesis 12 God makes His calling and promise to Abraham, this is essentially the start of His big plan to deal with sin. You can read the rest of the Old Testament to see what happens during that time. There are many prophets who speak God's word and tell of a coming saviour. That is when we get to the New Testament where we see that promise and plan fulfilled in Jesus.

Since Jesus is the perfect representation of the Father we look to Him to see God.

Now that the Bible is finished and God's big plan is done, He has nothing left to prove. What we now have is enough to believe. The one thing that will always remain visible is creation itself. Go outside and look up at night. Go to the beach and see the separation of land and sea.

God has even put this eternal longing in your heart. When you ask the deep questions of why are we here and what is the meaning of life? That is you acknowledging that there must be something beyond this life. That answer is fulfilled in Jesus.

Your physical proof lies in creation itself, God no longer has a need to appear as He did long ago as we now have Jesus. The Holy Spirit is what helps us understand all this.

I am not responsible for how you choose to respond when you hear the message. It's up to God as to whether or not you believe but I am more than happy to be the vessel of how the word reaches you.

thats weird addone. nobody else has ever said it looks like they are holding something

i stand by the comments i made in the islam is obviously fake thread.

i am going to change the subject here.
someone sent me a PM asking me to apologize to you. i dont think i owe you an apology for anything. but he is a christian and he cares about people, even you. so he thinks it would be worthwhile. perhaps a component of healing? i dont think any other belief system has a soft spot for their enemies
when Jesus was on the cross in all his pain he still had love for his enemies
Luke 23:34
King James Version
34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

one of the first things i noticed in scripture. the crazy things the belief system asks for. prior to my study of the word i heard of the idea of the spirit strives with the flesh.
the very idea of forgiving ones enemies is confounding and then have love for them? ........beyond anything man would ever write

Matthew 5:44
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;”

My point exactly
Thats because you are oblivious to your own actions.you are one of the worst hypocrites there is. As soon as the shoe on the other foot you get immediately triggered.

Sitting in your glass house throwing rocks but act surprised when the same is done to your religion.

This is the opposite of golden rule bible so painfully tries to teach. You like to parade around proclaiming to be christian except you are anything but.
It got to a point where now other Christians have to intersect on my behalf.

Just say sorry you made a mistake and movd on, no need to make a big deal out of it.

what point exactly?

more assertion fallacy. please describe the hypocrisy you accuse me of.

im not feeling the triggering

you havent done anything to "my religion" but verify it

he is just trying to do whats best as he understands it

more assertion fallacy untill your able to show the mistake

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107700237&f=119&p=689984166



Tell us in your own words why God had to do that and then tell us in your own words what you think would have happened had God not done that?

i looked this up because i wouldnt take your word for anything
The Bakongo people believe that "The world in its beginning was empty; it was an mbûngi, an empty thing, a cavity, without visible life." Mbûngi (also called mwasi and mpampa) was symbolized as a circle of emptiness.
curious they come that close some scripture description (they invented the same thing?)
KJV (King James Version) – Genesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

could just as easily say it started as the same God in a different language.

lol they even have a "big bang" narrative (universe had a beginning)(actually its a double bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nzambi_Ampungu#The_Creator

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 6 2026 11:00pm

Here's a thought I think Christianity is also fake. In my opinion (one that I just thought of a few hours ago) churches are just a containment area for personality's issues. To help people potentially be better human beings. Its like free therapy...which is not a bad thing.