Simply stating x (god) is the only thing that can ground y (logic) without demonstration or an explanation how you arrived to that conclusion is begging the question/circular logic. I already told you that you cannot ground logic itself. I suppose the only thing that can ground logic are its own axioms. It requires no ontological grounding.

Also your equation is purely hypothetical. You don't know god exists you are beginning the equation not knowing if the value x is real. You can substitute x for unicorns or thanos and it would still yield same result. Essentially you are starting with god is real therefore god is real and then assuming logic comes from god.

This post was edited by addone on Jun 5 2026 04:53am

Why was God so evident in the Bible, and seems so hidden today?

The Bible records God’s appearing to people, performing amazing and undeniable miracles, speaking audibly, and many other things that we do not often witness today. Why is this? Why was God so willing to reveal and prove Himself in Bible times but seems "hidden" and silent today?

One reason God may seem hidden today is the simple fact of willful, unrepentant sin. “Then they will cry out to the LORD, but he will not answer them. At that time he will hide his face from them because of the evil they have done” (Micah 3:4; cf. Deuteronomy 31:18; 32:20). Also, without faith it is impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6). Sometimes people miss evidence of God because of a refusal to believe (see Mark 6:1-6)—it’s hard to see when you refuse to open your eyes.

Far from being hidden, God has completed a plan of progressive revelation to mankind. During His centuries-long process of communication, God at times used miracles and direct address with people in order to reveal His character, His instructions, and His plans. In between God’s times of speaking, there was silence. His power was not as evident, and new revelation was not forthcoming (see 1 Samuel 3:1).

God’s first miracle – creation – has never been hidden in any way. Creation was and is the primary evidence of God’s existence and the way He exhibits many of His attributes. From what was made, man can see that God is powerful, sovereign, and eternal (Romans 1:20). The creation was His first declaration to mankind. “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the expanse proclaims His handiwork” (Psalm 19:1). Following creation, God spoke to people to further declare Himself and to inform man of His ways. He first spoke to Adam and Eve, giving them commandments to follow and, when they disobeyed, pronouncing a curse. He also assured them and all mankind that He would send a Savior to redeem us from sin.

After Enoch’s translation to heaven, it seems that God was “hidden” once again. But later, God spoke to Noah in order to save him and his family and to Moses, giving him the Law for His people to follow. God performed miracles to authenticate Moses as His prophet (Exodus 4:8) and to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. God performed miracles again in Joshua’s time to establish Israel in the Promised Land and again during the time of Elijah and Elisha to authenticate the prophets and to combat idolatry. In between those times of clear divine intervention, generations passed without seeing a miracle or hearing the voice of God. Many probably wondered, “Why is God hidden today? Why doesn’t He make Himself evident?”

When Jesus came to earth, after 400 “silent years” from God, He performed miracles to prove that He was indeed the Son of God and to foster faith in Him (Matthew 9:6; John 10:38). After His miraculous resurrection, He enabled His apostles to continue performing miracles in order to prove they were truly sent by Him, again so that people would believe in Jesus and heed the New Testament that the apostles were writing.

There are several reasons why, after the time of the apostles, God is no longer speaking audibly to us or making Himself as evident. As noted above, God has already spoken. His words were faithfully written down, and they have been miraculously kept for us through the ages. The Bible is finished. God’s progressive revelation is done (Revelation 22:18). Now we have the completed canon of Scripture, and we need no further miracles to “validate” the Bible, which has already been validated. In God’s perfect Word is everything we need “for doctrine, for reproof, for correction and instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible is perfectly able to make us “wise to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus” (2 Timothy 3:15). It is a “more sure Word of prophecy [more sure than miraculous experience] to which we would do well to take heed” (2 Peter 1:19). We need nothing more, and we are not to seek extra-biblical revelations. To do so calls into question the efficacy of Scripture that God has declared to be sufficient.

But doesn’t the Holy Spirit speak to us? Yes, He is our Comforter in this world (John 14:16). And He may work with our conscience to help guide us. But it’s important to understand that the Spirit is not giving new revelation today. Rather, He speaks to us through the written Word of God, which is the “sword of the Spirit” (Ephesians 6:17). The Spirit will often bring specific Scriptures to mind at times when we need them most (John 14:26); He enlightens us to understand the Word and empowers us to live it. But no one can say, “The Spirit has revealed to me a new fact about heaven, not found in the Bible!” That is adding to Scripture and the height of presumption.

Another reason for the “hidden” state of God today is alluded to by the prophet Habakkuk: “The just shall live by his faith” (Habakkuk 2:4). God does not give His people a continual chain of miraculous signs; He never has. Rather, He expects them to trust what He has already done, search the Scriptures daily, and live by faith, not by sight (Matthew 16:4; John 20:29; 2 Corinthians 5:7).

Finally, let us remember that, even in those times when it seems that God is doing nothing, He is still the sovereign Lord of all creation, and He is constantly at work, bringing about the completion of His perfect plan. One of the best examples of God’s “hidden” working is the book of Esther, in which God is never mentioned but which plainly shows His sovereign hand at work from beginning to end.

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-hidden.html

no it would not give the same result as only a certain type of being can ground these categories. you cannot substitute a finite material being into x to be the grounding of immaterial, universal and invariant preconditions of logic, the being must also be relational for us to have the possibility of knowledge which is why I specifically mentioned the problem of the one and the many.

it is not begging the question it is laid out in the structure of the argument, you could ask a question about why God is the necessary being that grounds the possibility of knowledge if you don't understand that.

if you attempt to ground logic in "its own axioms" and then you are simply moving the step back once more which is the preconditions of logic itself, you need to ground these axioms otherwise it's ad hoc. I could simply just assert anything here, there needs to be a particular type of possible thing doing the grounding that coherently explains your worldview and the possibility of knowledge.

to just say "it requires no ontological grounding" is unjustified and leads to more problems than you understand, it would mean we have no valid reason to think knowledge is possible

This post was edited by majorblood on Jun 5 2026 05:47am

Are you calling Thanos finite he literally holds infinity stones. Your argument is invalid i am sure you can see anyone can assert any god/magical character and produce same result.
Justifying logic argument is separate to jutifying god. You have failed to establish x (god) and yet you are attempting to pair him with a y (logic). I am going to have to report you to ICE for attempting to smuggle illegal jesus arguments.

you believe in thanos
you probably also believe in harry potter n spiderman

the infinity stones are physical, localized, contingent stones that can be stolen or destroyed. thanos is a physical, changing alien who must acquire them. neither of them represents an eternal, immaterial, invariant mind capable of grounding universal laws or solving the problem of the one and the many.

you cannot ground the preconditions of logic within a materialist paradigm therefore, you cannot justify the very tools you are trying to use to critique christianity.

the argument justifies the necessary being with a specific set of attributes as it is necessary to ground the preconditions of intelligibility. this form of the transcendental deduction operates as a reductio ad absurdum against all false worldview which your comic book character is a prime example of